Episodes where ray was right and Debra was wrong

Season 3, episode 20 "Move Over."

I totally side with Ray here, which does not happen often. It is completely legitimate that many people just can NOT fall asleep when someone else is touching him or her (not only do I personally know several people who are like this, I am also one of them). Debra has no right to get mad at him over that. Not only that, but he goes out of his way to get counseling from his priest to try to figure out what is going on and what he can do to fix it/make it better. He thinks he is sincerely solving the problem to give Debra what she needs that also gives him what he needs AND that does not require her to do anything extra aside from receiving the physical intimacy she wants and needs - poor Debra. *eyeroll* She is 100% out of line in this episode.

I don't know if it has been mentioned but the one where Debra throws out Ray's Muhammad Ali signed letter (or was it a picture?...can't remember). It wasn't so much for doing that but trying to manipulate and lie about it that bugged me. In all fairness, I also get upset when Ray lies too.

I think there are times when Debra skimps when it comes to food and buys unhealthy snacks for the kids and frozen appetizers for parties. It's ironic because earlier in the show, Ray said that Debra cooks for health and cuts the fat off of steak, while Marie cooks for taste, regardless of fat content. After that, Debra isn't really ever depicted as conscientious about healthy eating, other than the tofu turkey episode and that was mainly because Marie wanted to eat healthier.

Party Dress - He shouldnt have to buy a dress that is hella expensive

Wallpaper - Debra had been trying to provoke him for YEARS to lash out at his parents. When he finally does, Debra thinks he is being unreasonable. She kept poking the bear.

Here's a controversial one - The Can Opener. We never know the true story of the fight but I believe Ray was justified with why he was upset.

Mother's Day
Yes, Ray shouldnt have tried to patronize Debra into apologizing to Marie. However, Ray trying to end the dispute was the right thing and it was greeted with extreme hostility and stubbornness from Debra.
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Normally I can't stand Ray...he's a selfish, momma's boy slob, who has had more than his fair share of cringeworthy moments in his treatment of Debra....but the one episode which I am pissed at Debra at is The Christmas Picture....this is Ray's gift to HIS mother, and no way no how should Debra's parents have been invited to partake...if Debra wanted to give a picture to her parents then they could do that, and I bet there would be no way no how Debra would want Fran & Marie horning in on a family picture that she's doing for her parents...

Ray tried to do something special for his Mom, something he knew that she specifically wanted, and in the end he gets screwed by Debra, and by Robert and his sulking over Amy not being in the picture...If you want Amy in the picture, then marry her where she is part of the family...sorry but girlfriends/boyfriends can be a dime a dozen, and are not part of the family...the photo should've been Frank & Marie, Ray, Debra & their kids, and Robert....period...


"Life is like a banquet and most poor suckers are starving to death."

All of them! She's a screaming, screeching shrew!

Curling iron, curling iron, curling iron. Also, when she invites Peggy over to meet Amy's brother even though she knows Ray hates her and then acts like he's the insensitive one.

I actually agree. Ray has the right to demand respect in his own house. I'd be damned if I let some kid talk to me like that. Maybe Debra should actually care a little more about her husband's feelings than people she just met.