The dead baby !


Does anyone have an opinion as to why the baby was stillborn ?!
In the beginning of the movie I thought it died because the "mother" was a virgin .. I threw that explanation away though (:

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Yeah, I remember that just thought it was a false explanation, so that no one would know the truth :)

But guess it was quite simple then
Thank you :)

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That's a really good point.

One other thing that troubles me is this. If the children could Dr. Vernor's mind, wouldn't they have known what happened to the baby all along? Or maybe they just didn't care?

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I don't think the baby was stillborn I think when Dr Vurner saw that it was not human looking she just told everyone it was stillborn and once she took it away she evidently autopised the baby so she could learn more.

ceconomoujr said:

"One other thing that troubles me is this. If the children could Dr. Vernor's mind, wouldn't they have known what happened to the baby all along? Or maybe they just didn't care?"

Dr Vurner was able to build a wall (so to speak) around her mind they way Dr Chaffee did she knew about there abilities as earlier in the film she runs into the children at the clinic and Mara says something about not being able to see what she is thinking, they new that Davids partner had died but I don't think they knew what she had done until they saw the baby in that tank.

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by - ceconomoujr

One other thing that troubles me is this. If the children could Dr. Vernor's mind, wouldn't they have known what happened to the baby all along? Or maybe they just didn't care?


No. The children couldn't read Dr Verner's mind earlier in the movie because she is very good at "putting up a wall" on what she was thinking (blocking her thoughts from the chilren). But in the end, I guess she became weak in her mind so the children were able to see through her mind.


by - Zybahn

Dr. Verner tells Dr. Chaffee that the baby died of umbilical asphyxiation (it was strangled by the umbilical cord). Of course she could be lying, but there were also no screams or cries from the child. Moreover, since David is able to sense certain things about his intended, would he not instinctively felt that something was not quite right in Midwich? (This is all theory, there is nothing in the film to give a definitive conclusion.)


I'm not sure if the baby died or if Dr Verner killed the baby. But one thing I learned over the weekend from a documentary about serial killers (there was this woman who killed babies in the 1800's - I forgot her name). If you suffocate a baby, obviously it would cry and it would turn blue. However, if you do it right after its birth, just "before" it take its first breath, the baby wouldn't cry and it wouldn't turn blue. So, people would just assumed it was stillborn.




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I always doubt that the baby was stillborn. I think Dr. Verner wanted to study it or something

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I don't think it was dead either. Look at the size of it when we finally see it. Compared to the little bundle she carried away, it had clearly grown significantly. It was more the size of a 2 year old.

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my theory might be stupid but here it goes anyways.
both David's and the stillborn's host mothers were indoors while the blackout was happening, maybe the walls of buildings filtered and interfered with the alien implantation process causing the stillborn’s organs to fail and also cause David to be more human like.

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Dr. Verner tells Dr. Chaffee that the baby died of umbilical asphyxiation (it was strangled by the umbilical cord). Of course she could be lying, but there were also no screams or cries from the child. Moreover, since David is able to sense certain things about his intended, would he not instinctively felt that something was not quite right in Midwich? (This is all theory, there is nothing in the film to give a definitive conclusion.)

"my theory might be stupid but here it goes anyways..." Interesting observation toastglezglez, but there is nothing in the film that "proves" this. Interesting nonetheless.

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Having just rewatched this film for the first time in many years, I was under the impression that it was NOT stillborn, and that Kirstie Alley's character had seized the opportunity to spirit the baby away when the doctor said there were complications. The baby was fine and Kirstie killed it for the sake of study. Remember her disappointment at all of the mothers deciding to keep their babies??? That alone is very telling. She wanted to do an autopsy, and she was willing to do whatever it took to achieve that goal. That is why she rushed the baby out of the barn without anyone getting to see it.

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The baby was clearly not fine, it wasn't normal it was deformed which made it look alien like, I don't think it was a live birth either it didn't make a sound when it was born or when she wrapped it up and carried it away.

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i think the doctor killed the baby so she could examine it, and in doing so, i also think the loss of his "partner" is what made david so, well, cute.

it struck me especially in the scene with dr chaffee at the graveyard, when he holds his hand. they've both lost a loved one, a partner, and david retains his memories of this lost partner. i think this is what gives him his humanity and his empathy for the victims of his brothers and sisters.

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The baby was never stillborn, it was murdered for observation and studying..... you need to pay closer attention to details. That's why they forced her to cut herself open with a scalpel, they found out she had killed one of them and punished her for it.

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