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Why weren't the bullies in 1969 ever punished for beating up Alan?


Why do they pull this "Karma Houdini" BS in films like this. Hell even Pay It Forward did the same f-cking thing except the bullies actually killed a kid and even 1984's Silent Night, Deadly Night had a killer Santa Claus that murders Billy's parents. Why do they use this stupid "Karma Houdini" crap to let a bad guy get away with his crimes? It's a really f-cking bad thing filmwriters seem to do sometimes.

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Well now I have no reason to revisit the terrible Pay It Forward or watch Silent Night, Deadly Night.

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Because it didn't matter to the story.

The emotional crux of the story was Alan and his father. Not Alan and the bullies. Petty revenge is so... petty.

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Well how come every film where a girl is picked on by a popular girl, her tormentor is always punished regardless of the female bully's actions or if she is important to the storyline or not. But heaven f-cking forbid a male bully isn't punished if it's a boy getting picked on or beat up. Jesus Christ, I can't wait to be a girl in my next life! In fact, I'm pretty sure that I was boy in this life by accident.

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Because those are different movies by different studios, writers, and directors.

Watch the Neverending Story. The bullies get theirs at the end. Also Ernest Scared Stupid.

Male bullies get punished. You just need to watch more movies.

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Even if girls have it better in movies, you're completely fricking nuts if you think girls have it better than boys IRL. Read the statistics on sexual assault and sex trafficking if you want to feel better about having "accidentally" been born a boy in this life, boo hoo.

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Things were different back then (in the 60s OR the 90s) Schools didn't have these pity parties and baby kids; you had to learn to stand up for yourself or you were going to grow up being pushed around your entire life, like Marty's dad in Back To The Future. You had to fight like a man, just like his dad was pushing him to, to learn to be strong and protect yourself.

Besides, he was being bullied outside of school, off of school property. The school couldn't have done anything about it (again, at least back then...school's get all the responsibility these days...it's probably different now). And obviously, Alan's dad was not the type of parent who was going to drag him over demanding an apology from the other kid's parents. Though, some parents may have done that.

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Sarah did the trick by ultimately asking Billy to stop picking on Alan. And how could we forget The karate kid films where the bullies always get theirs.

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^ That.

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If there are some REALLLLLLY screwed up fans/"fans", the actors that played the bullies could be located and beaten up by said fan. Especially now that Robin has committed suicide and is no longer. Can be a huge catalyst for some things.

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Lol. Watch Kazaam.

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Because it did not happen like that in the 60's, you either beat the snot out of the bully yourself, or you put up with it.It isn't like now were everyone has to be PC!

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And we wonder why there are shootings. *facepalm

The problem is probably that we punish fighting back more than bullying. Bullies get away with it but those who fight back are the aggressors. Personally, I don't like the notion that bullies have a right to physically assault anyone who might not be as physically strong as they are. You might justify that on the basis of teaching the victim about the real world, but in actuality, you're really not. In the real world, if you assault somebody, you can get charged with assault and face real legal consequences. If we really don't want to baby kids and really don't want to be politically correct, I think making more severe punishments for aggressors of juvenile violence is a lot more effective than this "you're on your own, kids" mentality that really just makes excuses for bullies to break the law. You don't have a right to physically assault somebody just because you're of superior physical strength. And if you do so, you should face consequences. That's not politically correct at all. I think what is catering to political correctness is this notion that the law only applies to some people when it's convenient. Stealing is illegal. Vandalism is illegal. Assault is illegal. Harassment can get you a restraining order. Now I'm not advocating we throw kids in jail for beating somebody up. But if we're going to avoid drowning in political correctness, the answer to that is not letting bullies get away with violating rights because they are bigger and stronger. The only thing that teaches bullies is that they can skirt the law as adults if they have a good enough excuse.
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I'm confused. In what world does letting bullies get away with bullying = political correctness!?

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Quite a few movie examples have been pointed out where the bullies either get their just desserts, or get off scott-free. Why are the movies like this? Because the same thing happens in real life, some bullies get what they deserve, others get nothing. That's life.

On the other hand, one thing that I like to imagine that happened off-screen: The day after Alan and Sarah toss the game off the bridge, Billy the bully again tries to do his usual worst to Alan, who now has memories and "training" of twenty-six years in a jungle with Van Pelt and all the other monsters, and easily takes care of Billy. Sarah is obviously no longer interested in Billy (she did just kiss Alan the night before), and they all live happily ever after!

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On the other hand, one thing that I like to imagine that happened off-screen: The day after Alan and Sarah toss the game off the bridge, Billy the bully again tries to do his usual worst to Alan, who now has memories and "training" of twenty-six years in a jungle with Van Pelt and all the other monsters, and easily takes care of Billy. Sarah is obviously no longer interested in Billy (she did just kiss Alan the night before), and they all live happily ever after!

Maybe they should've done like the end of Back to the Future where at the end Billy is their butler and he says to Alan, "Here are you clean shoes and clothes you want to change into later." then Alan says, "Thank you Billy."

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Who says they weren't?

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