Picard is evil


I've put some thought into this, and the rest of the Star Trek Next Generation films, and I just think Picard is a bad man.

In this film, Picard finds Captain Kirk in the Nexus having a wonderful day in his cabin, and Kirk seems happy as can be. Picard needs help saving the planet right, because Soren wants to go back to the Nexus.

So Picard convinced Kirk to leave the Nexus by an unexciting jump of the horse. Because it was not scary, Kirk is bloody well convinced to help Picard. That is crazy first of all, I think Kirk is smarter than that...

But Kirk ends up in a mess of broken up metal. What a sorry fate for Kirk. Nevermind the fact that Picard decided to beam back to Soren's missile right when the rock was about to land on him. That is crazy second of all... that hurts!

But a rift has occurred here in logic I think. Picard's fantasy is to be the biggest hero ever, and stops Soren from going back into the Nexus, but they are both already in the Nexus and managed to confuse themselves by thinking they were not in the Nexus at all.

So Picard convinces Kirk to die a horrible death so that he can be the big hero, then he goes on to take on the Borg which may very well be a pleasant lifestyle for people. Picard is always in the Nexus, from that film on, and he will go to the end to make sure he is a big hero, which is the point of the Nexus.

But Picard is evil, because he messed Kirk up. That's my opinion.

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I say relax. Picard never got to leave the Nexus. Kirk is still happily hanging out at his house with his dog, everybody else in the Nexus is still experiencing what they know as Heaven.

The Nexus lets you live as how you want to live. Picard chose to live as a megalomaniac captain of a Federation star ship. But he is STILL IN THE NEXUS. Once there you can never leave. How could he leave if he could NEVER leave?

He only thinks that other stuff happened, but it only happened in his mind.

I know that's not official cannon, but let's face it: it's the only explanation that makes sense. Otherwise, the script sucked for the sheer fact it couldn't work on its own internal logic.

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Frankly, I liked the original "shot in the back" ending (it's on the internet somewhere) better for just that reason. This one goes for the spectacular death, yet fails to deliver.




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At first, this possibility seemed disturbing. Now it just seems nonsense:)
I'm pretty sure none of the writers had this in mind - simply the movie is full of not-really-well-thought-out events and scenes. It's a shame for such a landmark movie, released in the peak year of Star Trek...
Picard's dream was a family in the Nexus. (There wasn't a simple shot of him chasing Borgs, right?:) He had to distract himself from this, led by sense of duty, knowing this is just an illusion. I tend to think Kirk also felt that somewhere that the Nexus isn't real - that's why he was so easy to convince. Not only the horse jump. And finally, have you had the impression after 7 season TNG, that Picard was a bad man???

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Thou takest these posts too seriously.

"Oh no...they sent the wrong Spock!"

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Ideally yes, but the studio was worried if a TNG only film could do well at the box office. So they first tried to come up with a story that involved bothe crews simultaneously (as was done in the novel Federation), but weren't satisfied. Moreover, Nimoy and Kelley weren't big on doing a film involving TNG crew. So they sort of shoehorned Kirk into their story, and few are satisfied with the results.

And I like the idea that the ending is just another Picard fantasy from inside the Nexus.

"Oh no...they sent the wrong Spock!"

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We both agree on that. Should have left it well enough alone.

Shatner has said that he was told he could be in Generations and die, or not be in the movie. I wish he had told them "no thanks".

"Oh no...they sent the wrong Spock!"

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i came to this post just to check if someone realized this. thank you for saying it out so clearly.

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The following is all the evidence you need, to show that Capt. P is flat out evil and unredeemable.

A few screen-shots from the show
http://www.upl.co/uploads/captainmassacre-92.jpg

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I totally love the idea that the Next Generation movies are just Picard's Nexus generated fantasies. Nemesis actually makes sense now.

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I agree that Picard & Kirk never left the Nexus. The whole Picard's evil twin plot of a later movie makes a lot more sense if you look at it from the perspective of Picard fantasizing from the Nexus.

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I have a complete different take on this. And it deals with the Nexus. The Nexus makes you THINK you're living in a Heaven, but you're not. Guinan does say, you can go back and see you kids births, or even in the future and see your grandkids born etc. etc. But that was the thing. I think the Nexus gives one the chance to have what you want, but never what you need, and never really satisfy the person either. Think about it. Soran's echo was stuck in the Nexus, and whatever his visions were, he was dead set on going back, thinking it was better than not having his family anymore. (At the end of VI, Kirk was able to 'go on' concerning blaming the Klingons for the death of his son...) Soran was not able to 'go on', thus his obession, and in a real way it was the Nexus driving him.

Now lets get back to Kirk's Nexus... always wanting to please the woman, but never.... having her. Kirk had a constant need for 'the thrill', it was a lame example we saw, but with something as safe as the Nexus, Kirk would never have a sense of thrill or the intense desire for risking his life for the goal (whatever that goal may be)to 'know he's alive by extreme risks'. Yet, in all 3 scenarios he 'never got the girl'....

Picard has just dealt with the death of his brother and nephew. I'm taking a large guess, the Nexus knew EXACTLY the hole in Picard's life and gave it to him, his nephew back, and a complete fake family he'd never had, BUT I'd wager it would have never given him the Enterprise nor a 'crew'. So had he not been distracted by the death of an M3 planet in the Viridian sector on his mind, we might have seen something along those lines. And despite Picard's own distraction...the Nexus was trying its might to pull him into his own fantasies with idea of his own family. I believe the Nexus is a stream of living conciousness designed to make the victim's "Chase the rabbit" so to speak in order to be trapped in it while giving the victims a false sense of Heaven continuously being swept from emotion to emotion to keep you from being distracted from leaving. You can leave it on your own, but it takes a large amount of will to do so. And Picard, despite everything he 'wanted' - not needed, knew he'd be trapped forever if he didn't simply have the high morales he had to save, Viridian III. At the time he didn't know the Enterprise crashed unless there was another scene/script we never saw, Picard watching his ship fall to the planet would have been a nice touch, but we never got that. Plus Picard is a man who can manage distractions better than any captain compared to all the other shows, in my opinion, so the Nexus had a hard time distracting him to stay.

We have to take Guinan's warning to heart that she gave Picard before he the Klingon sisters transported him to the surface. The Nexus was the real 'villian' here, but they never really got beyond more than just calling it an 'energy ribbon'.

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