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What's really wrong with Troy.


Winona Ryder's character really nailed it when she told him that if he really wanted to make it as a singer he needed to practice at least 3 times a day and play somewhere other than the coffee house.

She also nailed him when she said that life doesn't owe you anything.

Troy wants the reward without doing the work. He's smug and overly impressed with himself. His comment about an IQ requirement clearly demonstrates his arrogance. He is a poser.

I saw the ending as tragic. Troy is going to screw the relationship up because he's emotionally immature. When he tells Michael we all die alone and Michael asks him what he's looking for outside on the street that demonstrates that Michael has a far greater understanding of what relationships are about. The irony is that Troy's father doesn't die alone. Troy is at his side.

Did Troy have an epiphany when he saw his father die? He probably did but it will be short-lived.

Michael is not the right guy for Winona either. He might be in another 5 to 10 years but not at that moment. She's still naive and idealistic and hasn't learned what reality is yet. It's extremely unrealistic to expect that a TV network is going to give carte-blanche to a first time filmmaker and buy a show that will tank in the ratings. Her documentary would've been right for the Sundance Film Festival but airing it on "MTV" would have teenagers clicking the remote faster than you can say Reality Bites.

Seeing this movie 16 years after it was originally released gives clarity to what the filmmakers thought of the time they came of age was all about. It oozes with self-importance, judgmentalism and naivete. In other words it was a perfect reflection of the time.

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Troy was basically a piece of sh*t. Even when I saw it back in the day (granted, I am the same age as Winona roughly and was on a career path) I saw nothing redeeming about his character. Unemployed, unshowered, unkempt, *beep* no thank you.

Leilana seemed to me like an entitled idiot as well though. She expected a great job right out of college and when her job on the TV show had some frustration she acted irresponsibly and immaturely, getting herself fired.

She was not ready for someone as nice/boring as Michael. At 30, she would kill for an opportunity to be with someone like Michael.

I really did not feel like Michael and Lelaina had much onscreen chemistry (I blame this on the acting/directing). I liked both the characters but Michael was SO awkward and dorky it was hard to imagine someone like Lelaina would waste her time. I didn't think the 2 had much chemistry, and any romance was really forced.

Anyway, everytime I watch this movie I feel like it's just a hair from being good. Giving Troy SOME redeeming qualities and making Michael a bit more "cool," might have elevated this film.

To its great credits are (1) the hottest Winona Ryder ever, (2) Janeane Garofolo and (3) Steve Zahn. Thank heavens for these 3 things.







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Interesting summary. Maybe you should have written and directed.

I couldn't get past the clichéd storyline and film scenes. It was like the Film 101 version of St Elmo's Fire (another bad generation whatever movie).

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Good comparison with St Elmo's. Both films are pretty bad, but in an ironic way.

Reality Bites was an attempt to market the idea of generation to young people back in 1994. In fact the whole idea that there was a "generation X" was a marketing scheme, rather than a organic thing, like the 60s. This film was shamelessly manipulative and exploitive, but today we can appreciate it for its ridiculousness. Although so many of the lines and the Troy character are cringe-worthy.

All the analogies to pop culture of the 70s and 80s in Troy's vernacular sort of reminds me of 'Family Guy' and the like. Perhaps this film set the tone for marketing hipness?

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Lol, so judgemental people.

I had only seen part of the movie before, and was always under the impression she ended up with Michael. But watched the whole thing last night and I liked the ending. Michael was nicer sure (and the poster who said both male characters were a little one dimensional) but was she supposed to pick him based on that?, they hardly have anything in common, she's in love with Troy and she's 23.

"The Love you take is equal to the Love you make" The Beatles.

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Have you ever known someone like Troy in real life? Those types are impossible to deal with, being so full of themselves and so full of contempt for everyone around them.

The character of Troy is just ridiculous, and so is the film.

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Perhaps you're supposed to see the ending as tragic, perhaps that's the point. 'Reality Bites' remember? So they choose the fantasy...which will inevitably end in heart break (most likely)...that's 'reality'.

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When you're young, the Troys of the world always get the chicks. But even Ryder saw that he couldn't keep that act up forever. Michael was too nice and stable for a 20 something chick. I have a lot more sympathy for him and think his assessment of Troy as a pretentious jerk is dead on.

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Absolutely!

Reality Bites..and Michael was reality...

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Great paragraph OP. Troy is probably the most disgusting and unlikeable character i've ever been asked to sympathise with in a film. What's baffling is that it seems the film knows what a pathetic moron he is, but at the end he still lives happily ever after just because he uses superfluous and lame metaphors "There is a planet on my shoulders". In no other film have i ever said "oh *beep* You!" so many times to the screen.

It's also funny how Michael proved how much more mature he was than Troy, when Michael says "we all die alone" Not only is that melodramatic and derivative as hell, but how would he know this from life experience if he has had none? Troy just quoted things thinking that made him sound smart, even though you can find the same amount of references in an ep of Family Guy.

This film was insulting and absolute garbage. Also, if Troy was a true artist, he wouldn't butcher the great song "add it up" by censoring the F word.

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I would give Lelaina and Troy's relationship about a year to last if that. Troy would mostly likely cheat on her with some younger woman he met at that club he plays at. He probably would use some *beep* excuse and blame it on Lelaina, like "You don't understand me","You don't understand the existential crisis that I'm going through."

Michael wasn't really right for Lelaina either as she was too immature and flighty for a real relationship with someone who could treat her right.

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I don't see why gorgeous Leilana should have to settle for either remarkably stupid Michael or slacker commitmentphobe Troy. I grant you that the former is more emotionally stable, but letting his company cannibalize her video without even watching it before it was presented to a large group was unbelievably moronic and a huge betrayal. The two seem to mostly have gotten together because of sex appeal, not a good glue for the long haul. She feels more mental compatibility with Troy, true, but he's an aimless loser.

It's one of those flagrantly false movie choices like "The Wedding Singer", where Drew Barrymore is wooed by the rampantly immature *beep* Adam Sandler character, who only looks good because her crappy fiance is already cheating on her left and right.

However, it seems realistic that at 23, Leilana would not have the wisdom to see why moving in with the bad boy won't work. When her heart gets broken in a year or two because he screws someone else, Leilana will move on to a better choice than either of these two guys.

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