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Shows the world how dumb women really are...

posted 11 years ago by contractorjohn2003
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So a woman is engaged but still is online whoring around with another dude. OH HOW ROMANTIC!

So this woman's fiancee finds out, and is all just like "ehh yeah, that's okay, leave me and fck another dude". OH HOW ROMANTIC!

You women think this is romantic, sweet, and cute... do you understand how pathetic it makes you look?

If this were some dude cheating on his wife, of course you'd then wouldn't see it as so romantic and tear jerking.

You women who think this is romantic disgust me.

[–] Fiona90210 11 years ago

You sound so bitter and clearly didn't understand the film..

[–] Piperson 10 years ago

I admit you do sound kind of bitter against women as if all women are just like this because Nora Ephron says so.

I do think you make a good point that if the roles were reversed this would not be viewed as a romantic comedy.

[–] edinak-19437 9 years ago

I agree that Annie's relationship with Walter is the weakest point of the film. Meg Ryan was pretty likable to me throughout the movie EXCEPT in how she related to Walter - how she was stringing him along, and then dumped him, and then he just smiled and agreed... At that moment Walter was the hero, not Meg and not Tom Hanks. This could have been mitigated if Nora Ephron 1) chose other, intentional behavior flaws for Walter (like if he was portrayed as controlling, or whiny, or whatever - but not allergic, which is something that is not his fault!) or 2) gave some kind of reward / closure for Walter by hooking him up with another supporting female character (like, if Annie's friend Becky was played by an actress slightly more attractive than Rosie O'Donnell... and had a secret crush on Walter... and they got together when Annie dumped her... would it not have been NICER...?) I learned from this mistake of the script and provided a "reward" for the discarded men in my romantic comedy https://www.facebook.com/inadream.short. My heroine actually hooks up the guy who is not for her, with the woman of his dreams!!! And I think that even though this is just an ancillary plot point, it makes the emotional impact of the script all the better.

[–] Forlorn_Rage 9 years ago

... Or rather than making Walter into some one-dimensional monster, which would make the movie more shallow and stupid than it already is, make him realistic. Have him question her and tell her how bitchy it was to string him along and what a *beep* crazy airhead she is for leaving him for some guy she'd never even met (or even seen) before.

The only good thing about this movie was that it boosted the sales of An Affair to Remember. At least that movie had the sense to have the two leads meet, establish chemistry, and be honest with their partners about falling in love with someone else.

[–] tmaj48 10 years ago

Thank you! I'm a woman and I've always thought this film was insipid garbage and
an insult to women and romantic comedies.

I'm not crying, you fool, I'm laughing!

Hewwo.

[–] rizdek 10 years ago

"If this were some dude cheating on his wife, of course you'd then wouldn't see it as so romantic and tear jerking."

Are you serious? Go to a typical Jane Eyre discussion board and listen to them go on and on, raving about how romantic Mr Rochester is. Synopsis:

Jane is a young governess working in a large mansion. The owner shows up and starts becoming interested in this governess twenty years younger than him. He's "been around." They chat and flirt and he apparently becomes infatuated with her. Bronte has her admit she "worships" him. Here is what he does for her.

-He forces her to attend a party where she is subjected to an evening of derision where the arrogant guests in HIS house where SHE lives deride governesses in general IN HER PRESENCE making her feel horrible. He sees it happen but when she leaves all teary-eyed he's all like "why're you leaving, why are you depressed," as if he doesn't know...ie he lies to her.

-He tries to make her jealous by pretending to be in love with another woman....ie lies to her.

-He dresses up like a woman to get Jane to speak candidly...ie he misrepresents himself to get her to open up to him.

-She saves his life from a fire and in return he convinces her a night visitor to her room who destroys her clothing was her imagination...ie lies to her. Later it turns out the visitor to her room was the same one who tried to kill him...and he knew it.

-He has her help him care for a man who has been bitten and stabbed in his house and allows Jane to believe the attacker was someone other than who he knows it to be...ie lies to her.

-He finally proposes to her and she's all like, "I'm so happy." THEN on the very wedding day DURING the ceremony, some guys show up and report that Mr R is married and his wife is STILL ALIVE. Jane finds out said wife is kept locked up in an tower of the very house where Jane has lived all these months. She's crazy...dangerous crazy, violently insane. Jane finds out it was HER that tried to kill Mr R, attacked the house guest and who snuck into her room and destroyed her clothing.

Well, and it gets worse...after the botched wedding, Jane is exhausted mentally and physically. Her world has been torn asunder, the "rug" jerked out from under her and HE spends the entire evening browbeating her, whining, cajoling, accusing her of not really loving him to GET HER TO STILL STAY WITH HIM AS HIS MISTRESS. He actually becomes violent at one point, making her feel in peril for her safety. At no time in his ranting and complaining does he ever:

1. admit he did anything wrong...he's either lying or has no moral standards.
2. nor is he the least concerned with HER feelings, her morality, HER safety and well-being. It's all about him and how he feels and how unhappy he'll be if she leaves him.

And some women (and guys too!) lap this up like cats at a saucer of milk...to them it shows true love, real chemistry, undying devotion and deep feelings. The contend that Mr R is basically a good man who just erred! He just committed a blunder, in Bronte's words. They go on and on about how many times they've read this book and how much they love it. It's a classic, you know. If you don't care to read the entire book just read chapter 27 keeping in mind all that I told you Rochester has done. It comes across to me as a most selfishly driven dialogue. See what you think.

[–] Livana_Faolan 10 years ago

And your comments make you look like a bitter, sexist pig. If that's the goal you were aiming for, congratulations! You reached it.

[–] LukeLovesFilm28 10 years ago

"If this were some dude cheating on his wife, of course you'd then wouldn't see it as so romantic and tear jerking."

The OP does have a point. These double-standards that women themselves perpetuate keep separating men and women, making us both bitter and angry.

[–] suednim1960 10 years ago

So a woman is engaged but still is online whoring around with another dude.

I wonder what movie the OP watched, because this didn't happen in this film.

I think he was getting this confused with a couple of other movies. And clearly he just got dumped on the day before he wrote this.

[–] dawnantonis 10 years ago

Not gonna point out that it's kinda crazy to call all women who like something that you don't stupid....but beyond that.... it's a simple plot... don't settle.... Wait for the passion that really fires you up..... Yes, women like that in a romantic comedy, because many dream of passion and romance in their lives....

[–] lizcarlo87 9 years ago

Both genders watch dumb movies. Serendipity, Doctor Zhivago ect is going to disagree with the part of your post that says cheating men would not be tear jerker.

[–] HorrorFanatic24 8 years ago

I'm a woman and I agree. What a hoe! Crappy thing to do to your fiancé.