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If people in 1985 could see the world today?


What do you think would be most surprising? I don't think the movie makes an actual attempt to predict the future, but instead attempts to be pretty extreme in its depiction of 2015. We have a lot of technological advances that might have been hinted at or even predicted by scientists back in the 1980s, like personal computers being in practically every household, but I don't think they would have predicted the extent to which we rely on smartphones, tablets, and the Internet in general.

Here are some I think would be surprising:

- The downfall of printed news. Newspapers stil exist, but they're not really a source of braking news any more. By the time an event is covered in a newspaper now, it's already an old story.

- President Obama, not because he's the first black president, but because the political climate in 1985 was a lot different from what is now and I think people in 1985 would be amazed that someone with his values/political views would ever get elected, especially with things like the Affordable Care Act.

- The fall of the Soviet Union - this happened not too long after the movie came out, but I don't think this was something that would have been easily predicted in 1985.

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I think it would be technology for computers and phones more than anything that would take people aback. They'd probably be surprised to find 30 and 40-somethings look a lot younger now than they did then. And that car styles have not changed all that much and space travel has not progressed at all. Lastly, a lack of self-sufficiency and overmonitoring of most of today's kids and teens.

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I was thinking about the lack of progress in space travel, but at the same time, I don't think that would be all that surprising in 1985. The space shuttle was active at the time, but it also barely made it out of the atmosphere. The last moon landing was in the 1970s.

I think you're right about the monitoring of our children. Thirty years ago, kids were treated a lot differently.

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Not at all

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The real miracle is that we are currently discussing this in imdb.com
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The debt was in the trillions in the 80s.

Reagan tripled it.

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I think it's really surprising that no one has been to the moon since 1970s. That space travelling hasn't progressed that much would probably surprise people from back then.

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Everyone in the 80s knew networked computers were on the horizon. Two of Matthew Broderick's teen movies, War Games (1983) and Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986), had the main character hacking important files on remote computers. Also, Tron (1982) and the Revenge of the Nerds series has computer themes. Usenet and primitive internet was already around back then, but only nerds, scholars, military personnel, and rich people had it.

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I know this is a late response, but, yeah, it IS kinda disappointing that space technology really hasn't made any noticeable strides lately. Sure, we have a bunch of fancy satellites in space now, but as far as space TRAVEL goes, it feels like we're still in the Stone Age of this part of the equation. It would still take us 3 days to get to the moon, which, oh, btw, we haven't been to in over 40 years.

40 years!!! It's like we went there a handful of times for a few years and then went, "Ehh. Moon's cool. Whatever. Let's go do something else now."


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I think another surprising thing would be the rise of China as the economic powerhouse it is especially considering people thought the Japanese would own us by the 1990s. Another one would be how ubiquitous and affordable mobile phones are now; they existed in 1985, but not only were they big and clunky and prone to calls easily dropping, but only people who made at least a doctor's salary could afford them...

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Those are some good examples. Japan was still a big deal in the economy even into the mid-90s.

I don't think anyone could have guessed about the smart phones or the amount of things they can do.

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I think more than anything, what's really surprising about cell phones isn't that they became smaller or more affordable, but that they grew to have so many more functions than just talking to people. Now they're like mini computers with internet access that can play music, movies, and games and built in cameras that take both still images and full motion videos. All these things were done by multiple and much larger devices back then.

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You do know that millions up on millions of people that were alive in 1985 are still alive now right?
So they have seen what 2014 is like.
We can actually ask people that were alive in 1985 what they find surprising today.

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I hope you're just trolling, but I'll try to explain.

Yes, I realize there are millions upon millions of people alive today who were alive in 1985. I'm one of them. This is a forum about a movie that came out in 1989 and features both 1985 and 2015. By asking the question on the forum, it gets read by people who have seen the movie and might have some thoughts on the subject. I would hope many of the people responding were alive in 1985 and saw the movie and can offer their opinions.

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I knew exactly what you meant; I'm 42, which means I was all of 13 in 1985. Perhaps I was a bit naive back then, but I remember what was considered cutting edge technology from that time as well as the socioeconomic as well as political climate was back then, especially since social studies was always one of my strong subjects in school. I also remember when if someone was a "nerd", they certainly didn't take pride in it...

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Yeah, that makes sense. I remember someone telling me he'd read somewhere that by some such year (maybe 1995 or 2000), something like 90 percent of all households would have personal computers. I remember thinking how silly that sounded. I only had two friends who had computers at the time.

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Maybe it was a fluke, but most people I knew (generally middle class) had personal computers by the end of the 1980s.


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Oh no way - not even in the mid '90s did most people have a computer.

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"..90 percent of all households would have personal computers. I remember thinking how silly that sounded."

The weird and somewhat funny thing is, the masses still don't REALLY like computers. The first chance they got, they abandoned them for 'smartphones' and 'laptops'.

(I know these are technically computers, but not the way computers were in the eighties - a computer used to mean a DESKTOP computer that was customized by the user. Now it means almost anything - even the 'smartphones' could actually be called computers, technically speaking, but taking that into account would make my post even more messy than it is).

At least most people aren't excited about purchasing and customizing desktop computers.

Laptops are the most 'computerlike' thing that the masses, especially female ones, like to use as a computer, but even then, they'd probably do most things with their phone if they had the choice.

The true 'computer nerds' are -still- a very small minority, and I suspect that until the 'civilization level' rises, this will always be the case.

Women might not laugh at computer owners anymore, the way they did in the eighties, but they still laugh the same way at Linux nerds and 'computer hobbyists', which still exist.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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As I see it, if you use a Microsoft Office application other than Outlook on a daily basis, you're a computer user. Otherwise, you're just surfing.

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They would be surprised that the ozone issue is solved (or getting better).
Surprised that almost everyone still uses gasoline after all that scare about gasoline running out in 30 years. The price has gone way up.

All the cars look alike.

Fast computers and wonderful 3D graphics. And lots of porn.

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The ozone is a good one. The whole environmental approach is different now.

Also, I think people would be surprised to see people now paying the same for bottled water that they pay for sodas.

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diet sodas aren't necessarily healthy now. Drinking sodas period is not considered healthy now. People are more conscious of the effects of soda....etc. Food labels look much different than they did in 1985.

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Probably a family connected to their tablets and iPhones instead of talking to each other, pale Michael Jackson, the rise of social networking, the lack of good entertaiment/music (all this remakes, Twilight, Justin Bieber), what kind of songs children are listening today (in my country, particularly) or the advances in relation to AIDS which was recently discovered and meant death sentence once if you had it at that time.

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Discerning cinema fans might notice how the ratings system has altered how movies are written (and not in a good way).

"Our knowledge has made us cynical. Our cleverness, hard and unkind."

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A lot of y'all have made some very good points.

Some of my points may have already been addressed in one form or another as well, but I was alive & well in the mid 80's (10 to be exact), so I kind of know that a person of the 80's would be 'shocked at', despite being a wee lad.

- The disappearance of Saturday Morning Cartoons. It was a staple in the 60's thru the 90's. Now... it's all but gone (gotta go to Nick & Cartoon Network to see any).

- The major advancement in technology on video games. From bleeps-n-bloops to hyper-realistic graphics.

- How just about EVERYBODY not only has a phone, but essentially a mini-computer in their pocket. Go into a crowded place and most are using that thing as a distraction/time waster.

- Digital cameras. Technology was improving, but the loss of 35mm film?

- 30 years later into the 2000's, and nobody has any advancement in automobile travel. Cars look a little more futuristic, but they still do the same thing.

- The legalization of recreational marijuana in a couple states, and almost full acceptance of medical marijuana in almost all states.

- The price of gasoline. Although this is kind of a sticky situation... a few years ago, it was over $4.00 a gallon. Now it's hovering around the high 2's. They would have been floored by how much it'd cost to fill a gallon.

- Cigarettes. They've all but disappeared from the spotlight. Severe restrictions, and some states have so much tax on them, it cost an arm & a leg to own a pack.

- Style: clothes, accessories & hair. Each decade seems to bring a different style, and some are more dramatic than the rest. They'd be pretty shocked to see today's styles vs. their years.

- Environment: Although we've had new buildings go up in the past 30 years... it's more shocking that pretty much everything still looks the same. More preservationists are saving more & more older buildings.

- Music & film industry. A lot of people might actually be surprised that some people who were performing in the 80's are still performing today. Schwarzenegger (Terminator), Stallone (Rocky), U2 (boy, October, & War), Lynyrd Skynard (even though lead singer died), Charlie Sheen (Platoon), and many others still performing hard today.



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I think they would be surprised to see how advanced the look of television sets have gotten.(flat screens), the way newer houses look both inside and out. Navigation systems in cars, gay marriage almost legal nationwide ( could be in 2015), the death of Michael Jackson, the original world trade center towers gone from the New York skyline. What's interesting is that if you pause the movie while Marty is looking at the Newspaper in 2015, it says Queen Diana. I think they would be shocked that princess Diana was killed.

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Today's fashion is reminiscent and strongly influenced by the 80s. I don't think that would shock them at all.



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80's fashion was about big hair, the blue eye shadow, shoulder pads, neon and pastels. We definitely do not dress like we are in the 80's.

One reason people look younger is the restrictions on smoking. Since even certain places don't allow their employers to smoke on site outdoors anymore (got rid of that too) and some stores such as CVS stopped selling them, people have incentive to quit. Yes they are still legal but it's hard to find them. Also some states are raising the purchasing age to 21. meaning if it's harder to get--you might thing twice etc about buying them.

The other reason is people know more about food and nutrition than we previously did. For instance Kraft reformulated it's Mac and Cheese to take out non-natural colors, which had been a part of the original recipe. Yes it made it more of a pale orange---but overall still edible.

I think also they would be shocked that 1) people with AIDS/HIV don't immediately die but are living longer. 2) There is now a drug called prep ' which can prevent HIV in people who are at very high risk. This was unheard of when people died within a couple of days in the early 1980's.

They would be shocked that people of the same sex get married.

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Good points. Some of them clearly show your american roots.


Environment. As an European living in between (and often in) 500 year old buildings the lack of environment change doesn't supprise me at all.

Music and Film. I don't think this would suprise them much as I think in the eighties you also had plenty of artist from the forties-fifties still performing. (Sinatra and his generation etc)

Petroleum . Didn;t you also have the oil crisis in the seventies? So they were used to price increases and given the situation in the world (cold war) I think they would except a new crisis.






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They would have been so disappointed.

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would be surprised Michael Jackson's dead Prince is dead Diana and JFK Jr are both dead people with AIDS are living and look 'healthy' that there is a preventative drug for it in addition to condoms.


we have had the first black president, the first woman speaker of the house. Women serving as secretary of state, attorney general, women going into combat. The size of computers and cell phones.

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