better i think (imho, based on my criteria of war movies) than any of the others-
platoon: a good depiction of soldier's experience in (the vientnam) war, but the black and white morality play infringes on the reality that stone seeks to achieve.
fmj: a great film about humanity and how it lives or dies (or anywhere in between) under military indoctrination....less about vietnam per se, but more about psychology (ie, the "jungian thing" that joker halfheartedly makes reference to that idiot colonel at the gravesite)
apocalypse now: like fmj, less about the vietnam conflict than about psychology (like conrad's heart of darkness in which it is based, it explores willard's descent into the dark heart of humanity symbolically by the journey into the nung river in the quest for kurtz)
my criteria for a good war movie, and like the war movies of late, are realities portrayed of the typical soldier's experience without regards to the overarching reasons (ie politics) of why [this particular] war happened.....
like blackhawk down, or saving private ryan, or das boot, or 84 charlie mopic...it just plain shows what matters most to those guys on the ground: getting the job done in the worst of circumstances, or saving your fellow brother in arms, or getting home....etc. these movies are the most honest, and imho, the most positive in portraying the best in humanity.....heroes in every sense of the word (not like john wayne in "the green berets")!
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You're nuts. It was a piece of crap.
There was so much wrong with this movie. The handheld camera work and documentary feel to it was OK, but the overall impression was that it was written by a teenage Vietnam War buff, who found a glossary of slang used in that era, and figured that if he loaded the script with that slang, the movie would be realistic. Instead, the dialog sounded just like guys trying to work all those expressions into a sentence. It did not work.
And what's up with all that gear they had? Clean, pressed clothes?
Jeez, there's so much wrong with this movie, I had to stop watching it. I came back, and tried again. And again. It was an amateurish piece of crap.
Excellent post. I couldn't agree more!
Saving Private Ryan? You had me until you mentioned that piece of crap. Depicting German soldiers as retards with shaven heads. The good GI Jew and the evil SS guy. Far from a depiction of soldiers' experience, it's more like a cartoon by a master propagandist.