Is Anyone HOTTER than Carrie Fisher
Man when she is in the Klopeks house with that low cut dress and her HOO HOO's hanging out boing i got a woody. Man she is fine from Star Wars to the Burbs.
sharewith her very short hair cut, and wendy schall smoking hot in this movie, you really need to come out of the closet, or is it just a jersy thing?
shareIt's a matter of taste. I liked the short hair. I also liked her face, her voice, her intelligence and her attitude in general. All those things combined make her hot to me. Mrs Rumsfield (Wendy Schaal), while being a nice person, just doesn't attract me at all :/
shareyes you have a gay taste
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sharesince homosexuality doesn't exist, homophobic doesn't exist, you can't be afraid of something that doesn't exist in nature. on the other hand you're brainwashed.
shareOn what basis are you claiming that 'homosexuality doesn't exist'?
no one was ever able to prove it to me, yes there are men who stick their dicks in women's, men's, children's, animals' butts. they are perverts. but why to pick one kind of perversion and consider it as an elite group with special rights, when their is no biological prove for their existence. as a sociologist i can see how the powerful elite brain wash the masses.
shareIf two grown men feel zero sexual attraction to women, but do experience an impulsive sexual attraction to each other, and choose to act on it, what's the problem?
How do you define 'perversion'?
if two grown son and mother feel zero sexual attraction to others, but do experience an impulsive sexual attraction to each other, and choose to act on it, what's the problem?
How do you define 'perversion'?
(they use bills so there is no pregnancy)
if two grown son and mother feel zero sexual attraction to others, but do experience an impulsive sexual attraction to each other, and choose to act on it, what's the problem?
If they're both fully consenting adults and nobody gets hurt then it's none of my business, let them do what they want. What's your answer to my original question?
How do you define 'perversion'?
I asked first so you answer and then we can move on, let's do this step-by-step so no debating fallacies and evasion tactics creep in.
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perversion is an act that doesn't serve a biological purpose and/or lead to biological harm. so having so called sex with the same sex, i call it fooling around, maybe like little kids do, have no biological purpose, and mostly could lead to biological harm, through stick a dick in some ones ass or a hand in vagina.
as a sociologist, the only laboratory i have is the development of man kind, people experimented for a million years to reach certain common grounds to protect the happiness and evolution of man kind and civilization. that doesn't mean we shouldn't question the tradition, it means we better not listen to idiots who came in the last 40 years and think they know it all, without deep study of the results of these destructive movements.
i'm speaking out of love for my gay brothers and sisters in humanity, because i believe that only evil people with selfish interests want to kill their genes and stop them from evolution, while the genes of gay supporters prosper on their expense.
Thanks for answering, I still need to understand your stance more fully.
perversion is an act that doesn't serve a biological purpose and/or lead to biological harm.
Doesn't that include all non-reproductive sex?
What is the biological purpose of homosexual impulses?
as a sociologist, the only laboratory i have is the development of man kind, people experimented for a million years to reach certain common grounds to protect the happiness and evolution of man kind and civilization.
Are gay rights not a continuation of that movement? Given that sexual repression only ever leads to inner torment, aggression, violence from the oppressors, and in many cases around the world - murder.
that doesn't mean we shouldn't question the tradition, it means we better not listen to idiots who came in the last 40 years and think they know it all, without deep study of the results of these destructive movements.
What 'movement' is destructive and why, exactly?
i'm speaking out of love for my gay brothers and sisters in humanity, because i believe that only evil people with selfish interests want to kill their genes and stop them from evolution
Where does that belief come from?
Why should anyone feel compelled to procreate if they don't want to, especially on an overpopulated planet?
Why should anyone betray their romantic or sexual desires just because they don't involve procreation?
while the genes of gay supporters prosper on their expense.
Why is it 'on their expense' if they don't want to procreate? How are they losing out? All they want to do is follow their private romantic and sexual impulses without interference from the outside.
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Doesn't that include all non-reproductive sex?
no, because scientists discovered that sex (between males and females which is the only real sex, except with some plants that have both sexes which is the only real homosexuality in nature.) has harmonic functions, even when men and women are just near each other without sexual actions. which has a normal psychological benefit.
What is the biological purpose of homosexual impulses?
they don't exist, any human can create an imaginative desire to stick his dick in an infant's ass, or even a hole in the wall, that's purely psychological with no biological ground.
Are gay rights not a continuation of that movement?
no, because it goes against the human evolution, if all humanity had the same imaginative perversion (which is not sexual repression)humanity might instinct, which is the greatest murder, the murder of the entire mankind.
What 'movement' is destructive and why, exactly?
obviously the gay movement in this case for encouraging humans on self destruction of genes.
Where does that belief come from?
it's a scientific biological theory that's called the selfish gene (which might explain cancer). and i think it might have subconscious psychological effect on straight people who support gay movement.
Why should anyone feel compelled to procreate if they don't want to, especially on an overpopulated planet?
children might don't want to eat vegetables, because they don't consciously understand their bodies' needs. an overpopulated planet is a myth created by selfish rich people, just walk out of your city and look for yourself to the massive empty country side. shakespeare sonnets might help too, and by the way he wasn't gay.
Why should anyone betray their romantic or sexual desires just because they don't involve procreation?
look to my answers above.
Why is it 'on their expense' if they don't want to procreate?
some people might want to kill themselves, yes it's their lives and they don't hurt any one else, but it's evil to encourage them to kill themselves, and it's good to help them not to. same thing for people who want to kill their genes.
no, because scientists discovered that sex (between males and females which is the only real sex, except with some plants that have both sexes which is the only real homosexuality in nature.) has harmonic functions, even when men and women are just near each other without sexual actions. which has a normal psychological benefit.
So why wouldn't homosexuals experience that same harmonic function in the presence of those they're attracted to, just as heterosexuals do?
On what basis are you distinguishing 'real sex' from unreal sex?
Can you reference the scientific study you mentioned?
What is the biological purpose of homosexual impulses?
they don't exist, any human can create an imaginative desire to stick his dick in an infant's ass, or even a hole in the wall, that's purely psychological with no biological ground.
On what basis are you claiming that 'they don't exist' when all the evidence demonstrates they clearly do? Some people kill themselves because they experience sexual urges that contradict their societal norms, which create enormous psychological torment. If it was a psychological creation, then why would anyone 'choose' homosexuality in an environment that is openly hostile toward homosexuals..?
Also, you're equating consensual adult homosexual relationships with child rape and object fetish. The three are vastly different, with vastly different consequences.
Are gay rights not a continuation of that movement?
no, because it goes against the human evolution, if all humanity had the same imaginative perversion (which is not sexual repression)humanity might instinct, which is the greatest murder, the murder of the entire mankind.
But homosexuality accounts for roughly 10% of any given population, and there's absolutely no suggestion that it is increasing or likely to overtake heterosexuality. Also, perhaps it is an entirely natural guard against over-population?
You originally said 'people experimented for a million years to reach certain common grounds to protect the happiness and evolution of man kind and civilization.' Surely gay rights are entirely about protecting the happiness of that sector of society, just as women's rights were? As we've seen, sexual repression only causes misery and violence, so how would that 'protect happiness'?
What 'movement' is destructive and why, exactly?
obviously the gay movement in this case for encouraging humans on self destruction of genes.
So should homosexuals be forced into heterosexual relationships, with people they're not attracted to?
Where does that belief come from?
it's a scientific biological theory that's called the selfish gene (which might explain cancer). and i think it might have subconscious psychological effect on straight people who support gay movement.
Straight people who support gay rights are the same as men who support women's rights - it's about respecting every individual's right to be free to express themselves and be treated equally. The alternative is a totalitarian society, and Hitler showed us what happens when humans decide which people count and which don't, with terrifying consequences.
Why should anyone feel compelled to procreate if they don't want to, especially on an overpopulated planet?
children might don't want to eat vegetables, because they don't consciously understand their bodies' needs. an overpopulated planet is a myth created by selfish rich people, just walk out of your city and look for yourself to the massive empty country side. shakespeare sonnets might help too, and by the way he wasn't gay.
That depends which country you're talking about and what resources are available. Malnutrition and disease kills scores of people in cultures that cannot cope with their numbers, and green areas are depleting in developed countries as cities grow. The human race is expanding exponentially on a planet that is struggling to cope with the numbers, or the pollution it creates. The suggestion that every individual has a moral obligation to keep breeding incessantly on an overpopulated planet is absurd.
Why should anyone betray their romantic or sexual desires just because they don't involve procreation?
look to my answers above.
If the human race was facing extinction you could perhaps make an ethical case for encouraging procreation, but none of your answers make a convincing case for why anyone should betray their romantic or sexual desires in pursuit of a groundless theory.
some people might want to kill themselves, yes it's their lives and they don't hurt any one else, but it's evil to encourage them to kill themselves, and it's good to help them not to. same thing for people who want to kill their genes.
To draw an equivalence between choosing not to procreate and murder is an insane and dangerous leap. To reduce a human being - a conscious creature with enormous capacity for suffering - to an unconscious microscopic gene is utterly dehumanising. Western culture outgrew such thinking and attempts at 'social evolution' after millennia of blood, agony and delusion.
The implications of what you're suggesting are terrifying.
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So why wouldn't homosexuals experience that same harmonic function...
sorry i meant hormones effect not harmonic, no i can't find the source.
real sex have biological roots, unreal sex is psychological fooling around.
On what basis are you claiming that 'they don't exist'...
who make a claim should bring the evidence not the other way around. no one has doubts about the biological ground for real sex, while the gays fooling around has no evidence. they even tried to create the myth of gay gene which was never proven real. why so called terrorist make suicide bombing, it's against every biological rule of survival, the answer is cultural reasons that can be stronger than biological instincts in the context of civilization.
so how would that 'protect happiness'?
fruidian psychology is pseudoscience. sexual repression doesn't apply to gay people since homosexuality doesn't exist, repressing an urge to kill kittens or to fock babies and walls and mothers and sisters is a good thing. mothers and sisters are adults too, the issue here is to maintain a productive social structure. yes gays and mother fockers are few now, but who knows if they are encouraged enough, like the very new laws of gay marriage in america, it could lead to the end of civilization and humanity.
So should homosexuals be forced...
no one should be forced but shouldn't be encouraged on a biological self destruction behavior.
Straight people who support gay rights are the same...
i don't want to get to women issues now, it's more complicated, and my personal theories are more original, you may say crazy. but i bet you most men support women rights to get into their pants. and straight people love to get rid of more men competition on women. humans are animals.
That depends which country you're talking about...
no, the only real problem we have is distribution of wealth, very few people, about 5% of humanity control more than half of human resources and wealth. solve this and you will have no population issue.
If the human race was facing extinction ...
you didn't understand. gays like children who don't understand what their body want, what their selfish genes want, and this will cause them much more misery to betray their bodies and genes than to betray false emotions that's created by their spoiled minds.
to draw an equivalence between choosing not to procreate and murder ..
communists brainwash their people, give them the illusion that they live in paradise, when they are in hell. but as you can see, people in some countries outsmarted them. the problem with the germanic culture is the opposite, modern art give people an illusion that the world is evil, and they are noble when they decide not to bring any children to it. in my 20s i was thinking like you, having verters pain in my heart. but if you wanna free your mind from all brainwashing and peruse the truth, well, every one will think you crazy, like you think of me. some people see postmodernism now as going back to the dark ages mentality, but post post modernism, that would be the hegelian dialectical triumph.
sorry i meant hormones effect not harmonic, no i can't find the source.
real sex have biological roots, unreal sex is psychological fooling around.
How is sex 'psychological' if real stimulation and orgasm is achieved? By what criteria is one form of sex deemed 'real' while another is 'unreal' when both have the same biological stimulation?
Have you found the source for your 'scientific' claim yet?
who make a claim should bring the evidence not the other way around. no one has doubts about the biological ground for real sex, while the gays fooling around has no evidence. they even tried to create the myth of gay gene which was never proven real. why so called terrorist make suicide bombing, it's against every biological rule of survival, the answer is cultural reasons that can be stronger than biological instincts in the context of civilization.
My 'evidence' of homosexuality is the abundant examples of homosexual relationships and activity that one can find in any society or online.
Gay sex exists because homosexual impulses are acted upon. If these impulses didn't exist then why would anybody engage in homosexual activity, given the horrific consequences? A gay person is sexually aroused by people of the same gender, this is often a painful and devastating realization. Why would anybody endure that unless such sexual impulses were entirely real?
Suicide bombing is the consequence of powerful cultural memes and violent religious conditioning. Gay impulses are prior to thought, suicide bombing can only be achieved through concentrated mental programming. Also, indiscriminate mass murder is one of the most evil acts a human being can undertake, a consenting adult homosexual relationship hurts no one (except those who feel compelled to force themselves into the private sex lives of others).
so how would that 'protect happiness'?
fruidian psychology is pseudoscience. sexual repression doesn't apply to gay people since homosexuality doesn't exist, repressing an urge to kill kittens or to fock babies and walls and mothers and sisters is a good thing. mothers and sisters are adults too, the issue here is to maintain a productive social structure. yes gays and mother fockers are few now, but who knows if they are encouraged enough, like the very new laws of gay marriage in america, it could lead to the end of civilization and humanity.
Again, on what FACTUAL basis are you making the extremely bold claim that 'homosexuality doesn't exist'?
Your 'productive social structure' sounds like the kind of totalitarian nightmare that the enlightened world has long since vowed never to repeat.
So should homosexuals be forced...
no one should be forced but shouldn't be encouraged on a biological self destruction behavior.
But their biology is responsible for their homosexual impulses and is encouraging them to engage in homosexual behaviour.
Straight people who support gay rights are the same...
i don't want to get to women issues now, it's more complicated, and my personal theories are more original, you may say crazy. but i bet you most men support women rights to get into their pants. and straight people love to get rid of more men competition on women. humans are animals.
You're projecting your motivations onto others. Humans are animals, but they're also highly sensitive and complex beings who transcended their base instincts millennia ago. To reduce them to 'animals' is to dehumanise them, and rip out the myriad of faculties and experiences that make human existence far more substantive than being just breeding machines.
The ideology you've created is brutal, insensitive and disregards huge swathes of the human condition. That's fine in itself, but to assume that anyone outside of yourself should take your social engineering seriously in a world that has already outgrown Hitler is a high hope. 'The road to hell is paved with good intentions', I would examine what has compelled you to want to steer the world in this way.
That depends which country you're talking about...
no, the only real problem we have is distribution of wealth, very few people, about 5% of humanity control more than half of human resources and wealth. solve this and you will have no population issue.
Free money encourages breeding because you don't have to provide for your children, someone else will pay for them, so you can keep squatting them out. Religious obligations to breed and rules against contraception cause massive over-breeding, suffering and death.
you didn't understand. gays like children who don't understand what their body want, what their selfish genes want, and this will cause them much more misery to betray their bodies and genes than to betray false emotions that's created by their spoiled minds.
Their bodies are telling them to engage in homosexual relationships and activity, and it could be the case the homosexuality is genetics constraining the population. You're inventing what people's bodies 'want' and then judging them for failing to live up to your imagined ideals. If you feel like procreating then have away, other people can do what they want with their lives and you have zero right to involve yourself in their bedrooms or dictate what anyone 'should do' concerning consenting adult sexual activity. The cruelty of what you're suggesting would damage humanity infinitely more than some people choosing not to breed on an already over-populated planet.
communists brainwash their people, give them the illusion that they live in paradise, when they are in hell. but as you can see, people in some countries outsmarted them. the problem with the germanic culture is the opposite, modern art give people an illusion that the world is evil, and they are noble when they decide not to bring any children to it. in my 20s i was thinking like you, having verters pain in my heart. but if you wanna free your mind from all brainwashing and peruse the truth, well, every one will think you crazy, like you think of me. some people see postmodernism now as going back to the dark ages mentality, but post post modernism, that would be the hegelian dialectical triumph.
These detached theories and notions of brainwashing have zero to do with an individual choosing whether or not to raise children, which is a practical concern that will seriously affect the rest of one's life. I don't think you're inherently crazy, but you have allowed an ideal to overtake your natural human empathy. Much like communism, the heaven you aspire to with your forced breeding plan and cruelty to those who don't fit with it, like homosexuals, would quickly create a hell on earth.
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pervert sex happens, but it has no evolutionary biological function and / or it leads to serious harm. a rock musician broke two of his chest bones so he can give a blow job to himself. so real sex is what has evolutionary biological function, as for pervert psychological delusions are able to cause biological stimulation, even for a guy who literally fock himself, but it's not real on the evolutionary long range plan which make it fake, and unreal.
i read what i told in a newspaper, and i didn't realize at the moment how it could relate to the perverts issues, including sodomites. but even if i realized that i wouldn't keep a journal for such trivial matters. perverts are the least of my sociological concerns, although many people told me i can make a fortune by writing about them in my culture which has little contemporary literature in this field.
you can never separate the urges that sodomites have from other pervert things people did for generations. people who have sex with children has long history and colorful culture, they even have an organization in america that try to help them. and they have support in some religious groups. you completely missed the point, my suicide attacks example was to show that psychological factors like pervert thoughts can go against the most fundamental biological instincts. and that's how sodomites and other perverts go against their bodies.
the most funny thing is that americans think they are so progressive and enlightened by the sodomite marriage crap. Oman is one of the most backward arab countries, unlike most muslims they are mostly not sunni or shia, they are abadhi khawareg, which is much older islamic rite than sunna and shia. i met eye witnesses who informed me of sodomite weddings between men held publicly there. it's probably not registered legally, but even regular marriages are not always registered in such backward countries. it's clearly a regular thing there that was probably practiced for centuries. so this with the sexual "freedom" in the west are probably signs for the demise of european cultures like it was for the arabic culture as it can be easily seen, not just in the arabian nights but other sources too. it's very well known in sociology that self discipline or what you call repression is a ital sign for civilization, it's what mainly prevent people from following their desires and kill and steal and rape.
a human being animal is the most basic definition that aristotle and all great sages stated in an attempt to find difference from the rest of the animals. aristotle called it the mind, but what is the mind, only god knows.
you are obviously a vicious capitalist animal, which make perfect sense, since it's well known, the connection between sodomites and sadism. and american psychologists stated clearly in the 1950s (after hitler) that sodomisation is mental illness, and i think it's the same for animals who support them even if they themselves were not sodomites.
you are a stinking liar, i was clear about not forcing any one, and i was clear about considering perverts who fock women in the ass similar to all other perverts, just on different levels of stupid and non productive behavior.
you rich animals want to kill poor people instead of a fair distribution of wealth, you only deserve war and death. as for sodomites, we, civilized humans, just need to upset them to change their stupid behavior.
you can never teach a liar.
Let's further explore your ideas.
pervert sex happens, but it has no evolutionary biological function and / or it leads to serious harm. a rock musician broke two of his chest bones so he can give a blow job to himself. so real sex is what has evolutionary biological function, as for pervert psychological delusions are able to cause biological stimulation, even for a guy who literally fock himself, but it's not real on the evolutionary long range plan which make it fake, and unreal.
Fine, but if an individual chooses to engage in a form of sexual activity that doesn't directly lead to procreation then that's their choice, their right, and it is nobody's business to pass judgement on that choice. Even the term 'pervert' is a judgement that nobody has the right to apply to harmless sexual activity. Your idea that non-reproductive sex = perversion is just something that you've invented, and has no application in the real world.
i read what i told in a newspaper, and i didn't realize at the moment how it could relate to the perverts issues, including sodomites. but even if i realized that i wouldn't keep a journal for such trivial matters. perverts are the least of my sociological concerns, although many people told me i can make a fortune by writing about them in my culture which has little contemporary literature in this field.
Your use of 'sodomites' raises alarm bells as to what kind of 'culture' your line of thinking stems from, and whether that culture is enlightened or backwardly delusional.
you can never separate the urges that sodomites have from other pervert things people did for generations.
Of course you can - the clear difference is consent.
people who have sex with children has long history and colorful culture, they even have an organization in america that try to help them. and they have support in some religious groups. you completely missed the point, my suicide attacks example was to show that psychological factors like pervert thoughts can go against the most fundamental biological instincts. and that's how sodomites and other perverts go against their bodies.
I understood your point, it's just that the comparison doesn't work because homosexual impulses precede thought, whereas religious indoctrination is entirely thought-based.
the most funny thing is that americans think they are so progressive and enlightened by the sodomite marriage crap. Oman is one of the most backward arab countries, unlike most muslims they are mostly not sunni or shia, they are abadhi khawareg, which is much older islamic rite than sunna and shia. i met eye witnesses who informed me of sodomite weddings between men held publicly there. it's probably not registered legally, but even regular marriages are not always registered in such backward countries. it's clearly a regular thing there that was probably practiced for centuries. so this with the sexual "freedom" in the west are probably signs for the demise of european cultures like it was for the arabic culture as it can be easily seen, not just in the arabian nights but other sources too. it's very well known in sociology that self discipline or what you call repression is a ital sign for civilization, it's what mainly prevent people from following their desires and kill and steal and rape.
...and attempt forced social engineering, which is what you're gunning for here. Your desire to use phrases like 'sodomites' and 'perverts' to describe people who are born with homosexual impulses is the kind of evil bigotry that enlightened culture has weeded out along with the desires to kill, steal and rape.
a human being animal is the most basic definition that aristotle and all great sages stated in an attempt to find difference from the rest of the animals. aristotle called it the mind, but what is the mind, only god knows.
What do you understand 'god' to be, and where does that understanding come from?
you are obviously a vicious capitalist animal, which make perfect sense, since it's well known, the connection between sodomites and sadism. and american psychologists stated clearly in the 1950s (after hitler) that sodomisation is mental illness, and i think it's the same for animals who support them even if they themselves were not sodomites.
Lots of demonisation and name-calling there - makes it very hard to take your 'theories' remotely seriously, along with your convenient inability to provide evidence of the article you mentioned.
you are a stinking liar, i was clear about not forcing any one
You said they 'shouldn't be encouraged', what measures would you take to enforce that?
and i was clear about considering perverts who fock women in the ass similar to all other perverts, just on different levels of stupid and non productive behavior.
Why is non-reproductive sex 'stupid'? If people enjoy it, why should they alter their behaviour to suit your bizarre social engineering project and highly-suspect value system?
you rich animals want to kill poor people instead of a fair distribution of wealth, you only deserve war and death.
Your nuanced understanding of human nature and solutions for building a better world are impressive.
as for sodomites, we, civilized humans, just need to upset them to change their stupid behavior.
The irony being that the moment you take it upon yourself to 'upset' a harmless community you can no longer call yourself a 'civilised human'.
you can never teach a liar.
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passing judgments on other people behaviors is a part of freedom of speech, you have no right to shut people up just because you don't agree with them.
my culture is from the first world, that experimented with civilization for 5500 yrs, i bet you have to be from fourth world that started around 1500 yrs ago.
you still try to ignore the natural biological foundations of my words. sodomite impulses do not exist, being sodomite starts from cultural not biological starting point, it's you who have to prove that pervert stuff including sodomites come from biology, you need to provide a valid article not me, only crazy people deny the real sex between males and females.
god the reasonable force of nature that sodomites go against.
having sex in the butt is harmful and unnatural and dirty because of the well known nature of crap. and i was clear about not forcing any thing in this regard, including sodomites. i don't wait from a fourth world creature to tell me if i'm civilized or not.
You seem to have dodged most of my questions there, let's press on anyway and look at your ideas and, more importantly, your behaviour...
passing judgments on other people behaviors is a part of freedom of speech, you have no right to shut people up just because you don't agree with them.
You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but it's your inflammatory hate-speech against peaceful individuals who mean you no harm and trying to advance a social engineering system in which their natural sexual impulses are 'discouraged' that's problematic. When you says homosexuals 'shouldn't be encouraged', how would you enforce this? Would it involve curtailing their freedom of speech (The same freedom you're defending for yourself here)?
my culture is from the first world, that experimented with civilization for 5500 yrs, i bet you have to be from fourth world that started around 1500 yrs ago.
What a strange 'bet'.
you still try to ignore the natural biological foundations of my words. sodomite impulses do not exist, being sodomite starts from cultural not biological starting point, it's you who have to prove that pervert stuff including sodomites come from biology, you need to provide a valid article not me, only crazy people deny the real sex between males and females.
Look around. Despite centuries of cultural suppression and oppression, male and female homosexual relationships are finally rising to the surface. The entire Gay Rights movement came about because they were culturally oppressed. To suggest that culture encouraged them is delusional - culture hated homosexuals until very, very recently. Why would anyone bother engaging in homosexual sex unless they felt such impulses? Why do some people commit suicide when they discover they're gay? Or endure ostracisation and bullying from intolerants from their family and the wider culture? Why would anyone choose horrific persecution for being homosexual unless their impulses were entirely central to their being?
god the reasonable force of nature that sodomites go against.
Where does your idea of 'god' originate from? How do you know its preferences?
having sex in the butt is harmful and unnatural and dirty because of the well known nature of crap.
The well-known nature of píss and the well-known cesspit of diseases found on vaginas and penises doesn't seem to be a problem for you. What about nipples - erogenous zones whose stimulation doesn't lead to procreation. If someone wants it in the butt, why is that any of your concern? Why do you care? It's not as if people aren't procreating all the time on an already overpopulated planet...
and i was clear about not forcing any thing in this regard, including sodomites.
OK, but how would implement the social changes you're advocating? You said homosexuals 'shouldn't be encouraged', how would you like to stop them from being encouraged?
i don't wait from a fourth world creature to tell me if i'm civilized or not.
Dehumanisation and demonisation of people who want to understand and explore your ideas for social engineering doesn't do your credibility any favours .
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i'm with freedom of speech absolutely, even "inflammatory hate-speech" because it's subjective view and can be used for tyranny, so i'm with sodomites freedom of speech. my social engineering is against legal criminalization of sodomites, i'm against put them in prison like in egypt, malaysia and many other african and asian countries. in the same time i'm against changing the meaning of marriage and let them get married like in america, britain, oman and other retarded countries.
i assumed your culture is english related which started around 1500 yrs, which make you from the fourth or fifth world in terms of civilization speaking not econmics. you could belong to the first world in terms of economics.
you didn't provide any solid prove, having sex with animals and children is also very old, that doesn't make it really biologically based. you think we should encourage that based on impulses! who have sex with children would say the same, and in many countries they are allowed and encouraged, it's cultural nonsense that has no evolutionary biological foundation.
my concept of god is derived from many cultures, ancient egyptian, qabbalah, daoism, aristotle, zen, mutazilite, sufism, spinoza. since it's one with nature, it must go with it, not against it biologically.
"overpopulated planet" is your social engineering plan that can get very racist, and is very weak theory.
the pee tube is different from the vagina, which is only dirty in time of the monthly period.
as a sociologist every thing humans do is my concern.
like lao zi i'm against too many laws in society, the social interaction in communities can be encouraged this way, when their are too many laws and no common sense by judges every one will sue every one and their will be no communication, i plan for communication as the way to discourage sodomites.
i'm just stating facts about civilizations, since i belong to the first world, i try to patient with people from infant civilizations, but when they dare to accuse me of being a savage, then i simply state the fact that cannot be refuted.
Yusef, are you Arabic and/or strongly religious?
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It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing .
Your bloated ego coupled with your irrational, backward, hateful attitudes has a kind of... primitive charm. Damn entertaining if nothing else!
since homosexuality doesn't exist, homophobic doesn't exist, you can't be afraid of something that doesn't exist in nature.
What are you talking about? Homosexuality absolutely does exist in nature. Even inter-species sex is not that uncommon in nature. I guess all those animals must have have also brainwashed themselves?
I wish you'd free yourself from your limiting beliefs, but you seem bent on living by what some outside authority says you should, be it science or religion (both are essentially saying the same: that the self can't be trusted). The only thing that is unnatural is to go against your nature, against your impulses and feelings. Humans are the only ones who do that, who try to be something they're not (or try hard to not be something that they are).
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