Why does Quentin Tarantino deny that he has never seen City on Fire? It is very obvious after watching this film that Reservoir Dogs was a rip of City on Fire. It is like Mark McGuire denying that he used steroids. The more he denies it the stupider he looks.
shareReservoir dogs and City on fire do have the same plot and the same concept. But Reservoir dogs is a far better film. Bteer acted and better directed. And do u think that no other director in the world has taken someone elses ideas and improved upon it. Nothing is done from scratch anymore because everything has already been done. So do not single out Quentin Tarantion he is the man.
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share"Why does Quentin Tarantino deny that he has never seen City on Fire? "
Because then he would have to admit that he stole part of it to make Reservoir Dogs.
One reason I'm so critical of Tarantino is because City on Fire isn't the only example of a plot he's lifted. Every movie he makes seems to just be a combination of cool parts of other movies assembled in a new way. I thought Kill Bill was great until I watched most of the movies it pays "homage" to. You can't copyright a basic story, but when you take the details from one (costumes, camera shots, plot, characters) and remold it you're kind in a grey area. I'm sure this could be done with Pulp Fiction or Jackie Brown as well, if you watch the movies he watched from that era a lot of it would be there. I don't dislike Tarantino or hate his movies (I like them a lot actually), but something just isn't sitting right with me. One thing that can't be denied is that he's turning people onto great movies they might not have seen otherwise, but at what cost to the original films? I work in the music industry and song rights boils down to intent. If you intentionally take even a couple notes or lyrics from a song and that can be proved, your in violation of the copyright. With movies I'm sure its different and I haven't heard of anyone sueing him, so I think it's more of an ethical question than a legal one.
share"If you intentionally take even a couple notes or lyrics from a song and that can be proved, your in violation of the copyright."
Tarantino has done a lot of stealing.
The Superman speech in Kill Bill is stolen from a book on comic book heroes by Jules Feiffer.
"With movies I'm sure its different and I haven't heard of anyone sueing him, so I think it's more of an ethical question than a legal one."
Maybe so. But Tarantino definitely has copied enough I believe for copyright infringement to have taken place.
But he copies from obscure sources, so it is harder to detect.
Ron Lim has written about some of the stealing:
www.ronlim.com/worldarchive/tarantino.html
Sheehan has also noted what Tarantino stole from Chang Cheh:
http://www.henrysheehan.com/reviews/jkl/kill-bill-1.html
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PEOPLEEEEEEEEE PLEASE...dear lord, I can end this entire series of posts right now...Tarantino not only loves to steal movies, he calls it his INSPIRATION for his movies, his movies are about OTHER MOVIES, NOT ABOUT REAL LIFE...that's his point, no one minds because he does it so well. The exception is Jackie Brown where he really tries to develop Jackie's and Max Cherry's reltionship on screen. There, now there is really not much else that needs to be said.
The ear-cutting scene Tarantino copied from an Italian movie called Django.
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Tarantino is a hack. This is old news. But he calls his films "homages" instead of "thefts" and so he is given a huge fanbase and hailed as one of the greatest directors of all time. Ever the video store clerk, Tarantino will always be a fanboy, lacking a real vision of his own.
http://www.ymdb.com/epb2102/l35368_ukuk.html
Many modern directors, including Tarantino, Spike Lee and Kevin Smith heavily borrow or refrence older movies. Whether or not you like it completely depends on if you view it as stealing or just homages and being inspired by them. One of Spike Lee's most famous scenes, the love/hate knuckles from "Do The Right Thing" was lifted directly from an older movie.
I hate how imdb signatures look like they're part of the posts.
When responding to a comment about a director being a hack, it is a dubious procedure to cite Spike Lee and Kevin Smith as positive examples.
http://www.ymdb.com/epb2102/l35368_ukuk.html
"But he calls his films "homages" instead of "thefts" and so he is given a huge fanbase and hailed as one of the greatest directors of all time. Ever the video store clerk, Tarantino will always be a fanboy, lacking a real vision of his own. "
Yes, he has been hiding behind the word 'homage' his whole career of stealing.
Which is very ironic considering it is a french word, and he couldn't even
pronounce au revoir, so he called au revoir les enfants 'that reservoir movie'.
And he named Reservoir Dogs based on his misunderstanding.
I wonder how much the guys from pixar had to pay the kurosawa family for remaking Seven Samurai in the form of A bugs life............................. Oh wait.
shareTarantino doesn't have half the expertise to make an animated flipbook...
Do The Mussolini! Headkick!
Yeah! And Martin Scorcese does not have 1/4 of the knowlage to be a weather man either!!
shareBut I'm sure he'd make a great film about the weather.
Do The Mussolini! Headkick!
yeah he really would... i wonder who would play the rain drops?
shareWoo also reinvented Hong Kong cinema almost single-handedly, and makes
highly personal films with innovative action choreography. He invented a formula
by himself ("A Better Tomorrow") and is actually a pretty original filmmaker.
What a fanboyish nonsense! You can convince with this only someone who doesn't know better. John Woo did NOT reinvent HK cinema!! ROFL. And by far not even single handedly! LOL. A Better Tomorrow, A Better Tomorrow II and The Killer are officially known as 50% Tsui Hark movies, my dear friend, check into some facts. John Woo only partially reinvented action genre, that's all! And only with one film and with one style that he repeated over and over up to this day. Check out something about true master, Tsui Hark: He's responsible for over 70 films with 70 styles and over 30 classics and over 20 groundbreaking films that truly reinvented and saved the whole HK film industry in the last 25 years!
Tsui Hark sucks!
shareI like Tsui Hark as well, but let's not elevate the man who made "Double Team" and "Knock Off" to god-like director status just yet.
shareWell The Killer and A BetterTomorrow were stories that John Woo had made - A Better Tomorrow II was heavily controlled by Tsui Hark, which is why it wasn't as good as the original. Tsui Hark, although he did great with Once Upon a Time in China, has since fallen off. Seven Swords was okay - but Red Cliff was WAY better. So stop slagging off Woo - he is the one who broke new ground as writer and director.
Woo made a good comeback and Tsui Hark has, sad to say, washed up...
>Ever the video store clerk, Tarantino will always be a fanboy, lacking a real >vision of his own.
So tell us, epb2102, what did you do with your life?
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I call Tarintino's style the blender style. He takes all these great things, grinds them up and makes something better than just one of the original things were. Res Dogs is my favorite movie. Tarintino is a great writer and director.
Also The Godfather must have ripped off Bonnie and Clyde when Cann/Sonny was killed.
This is against all of those who call Tarintino a thief and who can't appreciate great American cinema. In the words of another great director, Kevin Smith, or rather, one of his characters
Randal
So I've just been flaming this guy on his website.....
A few lines later
Randal
Who cares, he pisses me off
- Clerks II (Greatest sequel ever)
lol yea this is just retarded. Sure he's influenced by it but thats the point of art. And what about every OTHER scene in reservoir dogs, was there a mr blond in this movie? Was there a cops ear being cut off? Was there... ahhh you get it. Cumon ppl stop tha playa hatin. City on fire is like Rugby and reservoir dogs is like football. Nuff said.
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so if tarintino stole this :
a: it is still entertaining
b: ringo lam is not exactly mr inspiration either ie _in_hell_(2003)
even if all tarintino is nothing but a collaging film editor he does a sweet job splicing those frames.
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