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What was the message of cutting an ear off the dead?


Watching platoon last night. It was a scene after the last ambush a guy cut the ear off a dead vietnamese soldier. I watched a documentary a few months back where this American soldier did the same thing and collected them! Seems disbursing! I know but, what was the message/purpose behind this?

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A souvenir maybe? Though I'm just guessing

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Who knows? Most of the infantry guys in the Army are so trashy and have no morals as it is!

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My twopence worth.

Proof of numbers eliminated [The all important body count for the relatively safe commanders]is my guess.

Allegedly a combat [hero] type in line for a big medal during the Falklands situation had quite few in his kit which negated any praise that was potentially going his way. I believe this was found because he was killed and his property being cataloged. This may of course be a complete urban myth type tale from that campaign.

Of course it could also be a left over from the idea of scalping [allegedly a white man invention during the early days of American colonisation, [which I maybe have to lay at the door perhaps of my own [British, nations empire building period] or indeed those days of rat catching etc. A means of getting paid at some time in the past.

It is however indicative of cruel disturbed person if done as a trophy collection.

These individuals do walk [mostly never known about] among us.

The US does not seem to mind displaying a callous approach to the taking of life in its story telling. Some posts have alluded to killing for killings sake in tales like Apocalypse Now although in FMJ the killing of the female sniper was suggested as an act of mercy. [They did kill her did they not ???].

I have just had a look at a site about recorded massacres of Native American [Indians] since days of old. Not nice to know considering the tradition of Thanksgiving and all that y'all.

My Lai just seems like a continuation of that sort of attitude to the foreigner. Don't forget Iraq has thrown up smaller multiple unjustified killings and of course how can we forget obsession with actually recording our contempt [Abu Ghraib]. Not ears of course but you get the point.

I do however feel some sympathy for the Berenger character. It was his job really to do on the job training for those new characters who just arrive and may as soon disappear. It was something similar during the battle of Britain for many many spitfire groups not wishing to get to know the new boys and self survival is really the name of the game. The hard training is meant to get you fit and ready and hopefully able to react immediately to a superiors orders. It has to be hoped that that superior is really in his place for the many reason one of which is 'to look after his men' which includes that also new arrival of the fresh young officer. My time in a cavalry unit [British] the new officer started [informally] as a basic unit in the troop and took his turn at many things for some months being assessed as time went on. I wonder if it still happens.

I must have a fresh viewing of this tale. I got here accidentally while looking for the cover of the PC game.

So many US soldiers and families have had unwanted trauma mental and physical due to the false military and political thinking regarding what may now be seen as very unnecessary action. I don't think the [in hindsight] jury will be out all that long on the present conflicts.

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Screw you

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My impression was that it was usually done to keep a count of their kills. There is mention of this practice in "Coming Home" as well, when the character Vi gets a letter from her boyfriend in Vietnam and in it he says "got another ear for you."

Saying "I apologize" is the same as saying "I'm sorry." Except at a funeral.

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Actually, it was usually not done at all - totally urban myth. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble.

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It has been done though. Look up Anthony Poshepny. He actually mailed a bag of ears to the US embassy in Vientiane to prove his body counts

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You ever hear of Tiger Force?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Force

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Rule #4 of the Quick Silver method: A man can't hear, he can't fight.

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You got your mind right, Luke?

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I'm not sure about Vietnam, but American soldiers did do this sort of thing in WWII.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_skulls_as_war_trophies

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So when they go to heaven, they would have a hard time hearing god talk

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Hey, Millsey. I think I was talking to you on the Jaws board. LOL. Certainly many of the Native Americans did have beliefs that the condition of your death could translate to the afterlife. Some of them no doubt would likely believe that. Many of them did not want to fight at night in the darkness for fear that if they died they would have to live the next world in perpetual darkness.

I know in the film Dead Presidents the crazy character in the US Marine Recon unit named Cleon cut off a VC head and kept it in his knapsack for good luck, or at least until his CO ordered him to bury it as it began to become not a very pleasant thing to be around. And as Cleon said at the time that he begrudgingly buried it---I just buried our luck. He was right in an odd sense.

One story I do recall from someone who was a friend of somebody who served in Vietnam in transport trucks was that they would decorate the front of the trucks with dead heads of VC to unnerve those who would consider ambush. Apparently it did work.

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