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I was just wondering if it was mainly Americans (or Aussies/Chinese/whatever)who were posting and voting, or whether it was more of a cult thing over there and it is mainly seen by the British.

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I hadn't heard of the movie until a professor of mine showed clips of it in class. We were studying various theories of psychotherapy / psychoanalysis and she used parts of it to stimluate discussion. A very different and interesting approach. I would very much like to see the entire thing straight through, as we saw it out of order and in parts. But it seemed like a fascinating and very well done movie. Still, I do not believe it is well known here in the states (I could be wrong).

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I am an american...however I only learned of this show from a friend of mine who goes to NYU film school. One of his professor's thought it was the greratest thing ever put on film. I rented the whole series from my local public library. So I geuss to answer your question not many americans are aware of this gem, but there are a few of us scattered about.

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I came across it by chance, here in Canada, broadcast on a PBS station I think. I don't believe I actually saw the complete miniseries but what I saw left a very memorable impression... enough that when I saw it advertised on Amazon maybe 15 years later, I vividly recalled watching it and ordered it on the spot. I've since watched it once through and plan on seeing it again several times I am sure. It is groundbreaking even by todays' standards.

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Here in the UK it is lengendary (along with all the other Dennis Potter works).

I actually can understand why it was remade (as it is a little dated, technolgy wise) but the Downey Jnr version is horrible - simply awful. The direction is slow and dull and the move to America just doesn't seem to work (the rock n roll just doesn't sit with the film noir parts)... why not just remake it exactly as it was?

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Bloody oath it was!

Has anyone seen a bad word said about it on an IMDB board?

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No. They haven't said a bad word but it only rates 5 stars or something. I hated the american version it was a screw up! There was no soul to it just glossed over bulls**t! The british version has a dark cynical edge to it, it's an angry miniseries. Hollywood screws up yet another great British original - much like they did with the Hitchhikers guide. Speaking of Hollywood screw ups, while we're at it, why not mention the ring, the grudge and dark water? Have they got their hearts set upon screwing up all foreign made films?

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Hey now, relax. That was a big corporate mess made by idiots. It happens. Once I heard the casting choices I knew not to see it. I also read the script before they shot it, and it was sickening pap. That and there didn't need to be a movie at all as the original was perfect and really made for the long format of TV. That was part of it's brilliance - it was made for the mini format, none other. It wouldn't even be done justice as a play or novel. You cannot seperate it from it's orig serial format.

Please don't generalize so much. It's a business. For as many bad movies as "Hollywood" makes, there are many good ones. Don't bite the hand ..etc, I bet most of the movies you probably own are Hollywood product. The problem is when too much money is involved - then you get the guys in very nice suits who muck it all up. Frankly I am amazed that they sold the idea of this remake to the money men at all. Remakes, no matter who is involved, are usually a no-win proposition. Too many cooks.

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You might not like the American Singing Detective, but it was the work, not of corporate idiots, but Dennis Potter. I haven't seen the American version (and I don't really care to). There is no way it can be as good as the very great BBC series, but some critics like it ok. Maltin gives it 2 1/2 stars, and Ebert gives it 3 stars (both out of 4).

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Singing Detective was shown on American public television. I thought it was the most amazing thing I had ever seen. Have waited and waited for it to be re-run, and just discovered it again on DVD. Plenty of Americans watched it at the time, but it was quite a while ago. So we are out here, but we're old folks now.

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Saw it back in '86 and again just recently and I must admit it didn't loose any of its strength and originality, for me that is. It was the kind of revelation I recommend to all original viewers. There is really little to nothing that comes close to this, in all respect. David Lynch perhaps, but he always seemed to me someone walking away with the harvest Potter has sown. And no, this has nothing to do with cult or hype or whatever, watch and you'll know. Some way or the other this also brings up Spider by David Cronenberg, don't know why exactly.

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Being Australian, I'm rather pleased that "The Singing Detective" was partly funded by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. The series isn't widely known in Australia, but for those with an interest in television or drama it is. It was shown on the ABC at about the time it was on the BBC.

So in answer to your question, yes, count one Aussie commenter; and yes, rather a "cult thing" here.

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another American here - yes, it's bascially a "cult" phenomena here in the States. I saw it originally when it aired on PBS, to be exact, New York City's Channel 13. Very intense and "adult" for a 13 year old, but the Singing Detective and Bill Moyers' "The Power of Myth" were the most influential television shows I've come across.


Only rarely have i met fellow Singing Detective fans. I own it on VHS tapes, and still listen to the soundtrack from time to time.

Rented the American-made version and had to turn it off after 10 or 15 minutes - truly awful - what a botched job!

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It's interesting, this show is a really good example of the way TV has changed in the last 20 years. It's hugely famous in the UK but if they made it today (and I doubt they would have the courage to make it today) it wouldn't be. It would be a cult thing like everywhere else, and certainly not primetime.

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Right. Movies today seem like they're all made by corporations for the express purpose of shilling their wares. With pussy-assed feel-good endings. All politically correct. Nobody gets hurt - except terrorists and Nazis. And corporations reap a bundle. Movies today are the opiate of the masses.

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I have my original VHS tapes off of Ch13 too! I am so glad that Ch13 had the guts to show it. Every other PBS station balked. It blew my little mind when I saw it first - I think it aired January 1988-ish? I still watch it almost every year, I own the dvd set now, got it as soon as it came out.

I agree - very much a cult thing in the US. I don't think anyone in the US went to the film release when it opened. Not sure why they bothered to make the film. The casting was the tip off that it would be awful. They made a horrile Pennies from Heaven movie years ago with Steve Martin that was terrible too - again, severly miscast and an awful script.

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