Unfairly Derided, one of the series best - look again...


Always liked this film in the series and was surprised to discover how widely dismissed it is. Nightmare 2 is one the series best - it has the strongest opening of any film in the series that picks up the story with a fast pace, includes a number of genuinely creepy scenes and was the last sequel to maintain some of the spookiness of the original before the franchise descended into quip-kills and FX-mania. There's also some genuine laughs and nice moments between the cast, great photography and score, and some ripper kills....

Mark Patton gives a dedicated if at times over-the-top performance, and Robert Russler is terrifically funny. The 'possession' angle, while not strictly nightmare-focussed, span the story in a unique direction. Sure there's some hokey scenes (exploding budgie??), but the left-field S&M kill and some uniquely weird moments, as nightmares seem to spill into the real world, reflect the Asian and European horror we often laud - so why dislike it in an American setting?

This was also the last time Freddy came close to the menace he was originally imagined to be - the American nightmare, a lurking psychotic who stalks our safe, tree-lined suburbs, driven to steal and murder children. In that context, the pool-party scene where he faces down and dominates a horde of shivering teenagers approaches a genuine horror the series never again touched.

Many horror films also share a strong crossover with the teen genre, mirroring that period of our lives when we're changing inside and out; indeed the doubt, isolation, discontent, uncertainty and occasional dread we feel in that pivotal period often haunts our dreams well into adulthood. The screenwriter later admitted to a gay subtext in the film also; can we assume some of the alleged dislike of this film is perhaps discomfort with some of the undertones?

When I first saw this film I lived at home with my parents. I'm re-watching it tonight as a father with my own young children. Ironically part way through watching it, my young 3yr old son awoke crying in bed and I had to soothe him back to sleep. In his darkened room I asked him "what's wrong?", and sobbing he said "bad dream". As a father now I can far more appreciate the horror of what Freddy was supposed to represent, and Nightmare 2 was the closest he ever came to that again as a character. Take another look with fresh eyes....

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I really hated Freddy's Revenge. It may not be as campy or absurd as future sequels, but virtually everything that made Freddy work as a villain is missing. He's just a supernaturally powerful crazy man in II and the "scares" he is capable of bringing to the real world are laughable. Like, I'm actually laughing as I watch it. Possessed parakeets, exploding hot dogs, spraying beer, etc. And the protagonist is so weak and irritating that I honestly get tempted to root for Freddy.

It isn't scary, there's no logic or continuity and it's only humorous unintentionally. A truly awful movie. So, so much worse than the first one or New Nightmare.

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My compliments to Styglan6 for offering a very articulate and well supported review of this film. I re-watched it recently and was pleasantly surprised by how creepy it was. (Though, like many of the films, its still a tad bit over the top at times) Many fans told me that the series became comedy/fantasy after the first film but THIS film truly does seem to keep some of the dark atmosphere present in the original. I'd say its a worthy sequel despite being inferior to the first.

And I agree that Mark Patton gives a disturbing performance. The main character's struggle could be seen as a metaphor for many different things. However, the mental illness angle always intrigued me. He himself admits that he feels like he is going crazy. And there are many mental illnesses that do not manifest until 18-20 years of age. His frailty and his pain seemed very real. For all of the struggles of the female protagonist in the first film (Nancy), she never genuinely believed that SHE could be the murderer!

Anyway, the original poster said it better than I could have! Take his review to heart and check this movie out if you're a fan of the original!

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I rewatched the whole series 2-3 months ago and while I go back and forth with Freddy's Revenge, on this particular viewing I felt like it had a fair bit going for it.

One thing I'd never really noticed before is how drawn out the Grady death scene is and how sadistic Freddy is after killing him, when he's laughing/talking to Jesse through the broken mirror, somehow this had never really stood out to me before but it really made that scene stand out despite having seen it at least a dozen times before. Something was so much more evil and dark about Freddy there than in most of the future sequels.

I'll always hate the idea of Freddy "coming out into the real world" and director Jack Sholder seems like a bit of a moron in the Never Sleep Again documentary, though I guess he only had Chaskin's script to work with. The deaths themselves were fairly lacklustre compared to the 1st movie and the subsequent sequel(s).

I also disagree with the idea that Freddy became a total goofball overnight by the 3rd movie - there are definitely moments where he's cheekier or speaks more than in the first two but overall he's still a dark and occasionally genuinely disturbing character. The opening of Nightmare 3 is fairly well in keeping with the first two movies in terms of dark tone etc as are a lot of the death sequences/set pieces. Nightmare 2's opening is fantastic and I only wish the rest of the film had managed to live up to it (and maybe have a whole different plot where Freddy remains strictly in the realm of your dreams...)

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I watched it yeaterday for the first time -- it sat in my DVD collection for years and I put off watching it because everybody said it supposedly suck.

Lo and behold, I finally watch it and I was thoroughly entertained. The film had an absolutely creepy atmosphere throughout, the lead actress was drop dead beautiful and Freddy was in fine form. I really liked the concept of Freddy taking possession of Jesse.

I think this was the best one of the series.

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