Was Susan a prostitute?
I was only 13 (and a little naive) when this movie came out and I first saw it, but seeing it now as an adult, it seems to me that Susan is a prostitute. Any thoughts?
shareshe dresses flash,screws around, is capable of being completely mercenary one minute and and ruthlessly loyal the next...do you think James Bond is a rent boy?
Alright so thats a bit of a false analogy, but your comments just confirm that cliched old double standard - a man doing all the above is admirable, but if a woman does them there must be something "wrong" with her (going on the game being something that naice laydees don't do,but there's other examples in other films eg Basic Instinct)and she'll eventually get "punished". What do strippers, prostitutes, call girls etc tend to do (or get done to them) in mainstream films? One of the reasons I like this film (and I hate Madonna, mind)is that Susan ended it happily, without having to give up or atone for her sexy, reckless ways.
On the other hand maybe I've completely misunderstood what you mean and I'm barking up the wrong dog. Why did you think she was a prostitute?
Why DO you see her as a prostitute? I love Madonna - don't hate!:()
shareI agree, the double standard sucks, nad if James Bond does the same as Susan in this movie he is considered to acting appropriately, while a female is not.
Although I find it interesting that this mindset is not extended in this thread (and so I attempt to do so now...hehe). I gather from the above posts that a 'prostitute' is considered a low-life, or at least labeling a girl (such as Madonna) a prostitute is considered a put down. This is just another level of the double standard.
Why is a female who sells a service that requires the use of her body considered something 'dirty', yet a male football player is basically doing the same thing and is often given honors for doing it well?
Prostitution is illegal because of Christian mentality influencing politics. You know, those people who are suppose to be 'separate from the state' when it comes to law making, and don't pay taxes? I say any church which officially puts out any form of public propoganda of a political nature should be required to pay taxes. THAT would probably shut them up, and let the rest of us attempt to make full use of the U.S. Constitution's very first granted right, the right to "pursue happiness".... :)
The context of the James Bond character is that he's acting on behalf of his government. Madonna's character is not so aligned, and is acting out of self interest.
Ergo the comparison does not hold.
FYI; in male circles men who screw around also get a certain reputation, and it's not usually a positive one despite what you see in films and TV. There is a certain sect of the male population that roots for that kind of thing, but the supermajority of men, single and married alike, don't.
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Peter Oliphant:
That is ridiculous to compare prostitution and playing a sport. Let's just put things into perspective here, ok? Let's say you have a daughter and a son. Now, would you feel equally the same for your son who made 100 touchdowns -- as for your daughter who had sex with 100 paying customers?
As for the OP gathering that Susan was a prostitute -- I think she just needs to see the movie again. Nothing in the movie points you in that direction.
There is even a part where Jimmy tells Aidan Quinn's character that He has been chasing Susan for years. You don't have to chase prostitutes, lol.
Except I am sure the "I've been chasing her for years" doesn't mean they hadn't had sex !
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by peter_oliphant » Fri Jun 25 2004 13:32:08 Flag ▼ | Reply |
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I agree, the double standard sucks, nad if James Bond does the same as Susan in this movie he is considered to acting appropriately, while a female is not.
Although I find it interesting that this mindset is not extended in this thread (and so I attempt to do so now...hehe). I gather from the above posts that a 'prostitute' is considered a low-life, or at least labeling a girl (such as Madonna) a prostitute is considered a put down. This is just another level of the double standard.
Why is a female who sells a service that requires the use of her body considered something 'dirty', yet a male football player is basically doing the same thing and is often given honors for doing it well?
Prostitution is illegal because of Christian mentality influencing politics. You know, those people who are suppose to be 'separate from the state' when it comes to law making, and don't pay taxes? I say any church which officially puts out any form of public propoganda of a political nature should be required to pay taxes. THAT would probably shut them up, and let the rest of us attempt to make full use of the U.S. Constitution's very first granted right, the right to "pursue happiness".... :)
Bond was trying to save the goddamn world from murderers, terrorists and thieves, and people with designs on world domination; i.e. people who would take your money, take your property, then decide whether or not to force their sexual attentions on you and your family, or just kill you outright.
There is NO WAY that this squares with Susan's antics.
Are you always this vapid? share
I understand the question. She seems to have "one true love" (or at least "one favorite" of her beaux with whom she communicates by the newspaper, "Desperately Seeking Susan") but I think that's all that the men are: "Beaux."
"Susan" IS "easy." But I think not a "prostitute."
It is interesting to note that it was about 1985-- when DSS was made-- that people started finding out about AIDS and being more cautious about their sex lives.
Flanagan
James Bond is paid by the government. Who pays her, and for what? It's a perfectly reasonable question
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