theres no way i could make that choice!
i have a young daughter and a son just a little bit older, and id pull that nazi twats eyes out with a spoon before he took any of my kids to be killed
Which would have left you dead and your children at the mercy of the nazis. Good choice.
sharethe point im tryin to make is that in that situation id have done everything in my power to save both my kids
I understand. Except you are using a 2011 belief in justice to judge a 1940's Polish Jew being forced marched into a death camp and having to choose which child dies and which one lives.
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I still don't believe that Sophie just stayed with Nathan until he kill her. I believe that she couldn't live with her memories and allowed herself to be killed.
sharehe killed her? I thought they committed suicide together.
share"I believe that she couldn't live with her memories and allowed herself to be killed." -- Well duh.
shareMy take was that she stayed with Nathan because he punished her verbally, physically, and emotionally, and she felt that she deserved that punishment for making "her choice". Did she know Nathan would kill her? She may have hoped for that. She must have known it was possible. Mostly I think she knew he would never make her happy, which is the one thing she felt she didn't deserve.
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shareTo be honest I think Sophie was always aware of Nathan's delusions sub-consciously. I think she stayed with him as a distraction for all the shame and horror she had to live with.
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After reading whatthemovie was about back in 1982 when it was out in the theatre my older brother went (he never had any children) and this movie haunted him.NOw that I am a mother, if I had both kids with me at the time they were asking her to make a choice, I would have run with both of them and prayed they kill ua all as we tried to escape. I know it c sounds crazy, but I think I lot of other people woud agree with my "choice". And people say there is no such thing as God AND the devil....
If you have a drug or alcohol problem PLEASE seek help.There is help!
"you are using a 2011 belief in justice" -- beliefs in justice are irrelevant and aren't what his problem is. Rather, he's a spoiled brat lacking the intelligence to imagine not being able to have what he wants.
share"the point im tryin to make is that in that situation id have done everything in my power to save both my kids "
The point of the movie is that Sophie had no such power ... no one in those camps had any such power. From the stupid animation in your sig, it's clear that you are a foolish child living in a fantasy world.
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"From the stupid animation in your sig, it's clear that you are a foolish child living in a fantasy world." That is so awesome!
shareI remember reading about domesticating an elephant (this story may be an urban legend but that doesn't matter for the point) where initially they use a thick chain to restrain the powerful animal but once he gets used to captivity all that's required is a thin rope.
By the time these souls arrive at the camps they've already been thoroughly broken. Resisting is not what they think of, only survival.
Well, davescouse, unlike you, Sophie understand that there was nothing in her power to save either or both of her children. She was entirely at the SS Doctor's mercy. You can imagine yourself more courageous and strong by saying, "I just wouldn't let that happen.", but that is because you are simply not being honest about it. Perhaps you might explain to us what you would have done to prevent it? There were guards everywhere with machine guns, so she could have chosen death for all of them, but that was the only other viable solution. If she wanted at least one of her children to survive, she had to make that horrendous, soul-destroying choice. The SS Doctor was very clever, because he knew a mother's instinct is towards the survival of her children, and she would make the choice to save at least one of them, even if that meant condemning the other.
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