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Another film making me glad to be atheist


So many arguments, wars and BS based on religion v religion. "this is what my book says and mine is right", "no mine is right and mine's bigger", "you don't like my book so I'm going to kill you" etc. It's as bad as "my dad's bigger than your dad" at school. The anti-atheist argument is usually that religion helps promote moral values but given the amount of bad done in the world in the name of religion does it really? Should fiction be allowed to dictate reality? I'm glad at least I have all my marbles compared to most of this planet.
p.s. This is not an invitation for religious fanatics to respond with arguments about faith and statistics etc. I really don't care enough to argue back - I guess that's the difference between atheists and the rest. We're happy to let the others waste their time (although that does have some hippocracy since I've taken time to write this blurb but it keeps me going while I wait for the film to finish).

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In my opinion, all war is ultimately driven by economics. One side or the other, sometimes both believe deep in their minds some where that going to war will benefit their bottom line. Sometimes it is obvious, such as the aggressors in WWII openly averred their determination to seize and control markets. Sometimes the economics are obscure and deeply buried, such as in the Crusades. But a desire for something that is perceived as available only through warfare is somewhere deep at the crux of all wars.

Religion is one of the strongest symbols that is used to motivate a people to go to war. Sometimes they are subtly manipulated by a government and the religion is used to buttress the open call to an economic need, here I would use WWII again as an example. Sometimes, the people convince themselves or they are convinced by a trusted leader who is being sincere, and again I can use the Crusades as an example. But if you dig into it, economics is the force that drives the decision makers who then allow the clarion call for religion and celebrate someone they would usually dismiss as a crackpot.

Even the founders of Christianity and Islam gained ascendancy with their ideas because they sowed the seeds in economically fertile (financially deprived) ground.

If the decision makers did not have religion to call on, they would find another symbol.

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This is a biopic about a guy who took on British occupiers who believed that they had the god given right to rule over the inferior brown skins and all we get is a thread of I am glad I am an atheist.

Sad.

It's that man again!!

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Did you actually watch the film? Gandhi makes it pretty clear that he loves Hindu's and Muslims and Christians and Buddists, all the same. He, himself was Hindu... so you see, its possible to be religious and have love for all people.

You're incorrect to think that being religious precludes respect of other faiths or even no-faiths.

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