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What on Earth is Straker's motivation?


I never understood why he aligns himself with a dangerous, solitary creature.

Fluoride does not prevent tooth decay. It does render teeth detectable by spy satellite -JL

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Maybe because he's a dangerous solitary man.

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I almost see your point, there's no money or women in it for Straker, and he lives in a crap house surrounded by dead people. What a life.

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He has superhuman powers
And if he proves to be a good servant he will get to live for eternity.

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So he thinks.

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Lol true

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Straker's hope was that he would be rewarded by his Master in some way. That's the only thing I can think of that remotely makes sense.

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Yes, very remotely.

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Well in the novel (and subtly in the film) it implies Straker is a 'ghoul' or 'follower' or as the novel puts it 'familiar' to Barlow, (which might also explain the super human strength).

This being said he is under Barlow's control, to a degree, but also acts as a faithful servant for an implied promise of eternal life for his efforts.

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This sums it up pretty well, I think.

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Servants of Vampires (according to lore) are called "Ghouls". They are basically 20% Vampires, with slight strength increase to help them do the deeds of their masters, even though they are mostly human.

So Ghouls are also bitten and turned, then there is no going back (just like all the people bitten in the town). Slaves for eternity.

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Servants of Vampires (according to lore) are called "Ghouls". They are basically 20% Vampires, with slight strength increase to help them do the deeds of their masters, even though they are mostly human.

So Ghouls are also bitten and turned, then there is no going back (just like all the people bitten in the town). Slaves for eternity.

I don't want to seem overly harsh, but do people make this stuff up as they go along or what? Where do they get this from? I had never heard of that.

Here is a C&P from the wikipedia article. Even though I am cautious using wiki as a source, this description is a good deal closer to my understanding of what a ghoul is and does. I was under the impression that they were creatures from the Hindus, but even with this correction, it is much closer than the quoted post.
In ancient Arabian folklore, the ghūl (Arabic) dwells in burial grounds and other uninhabited places. The ghul is a fiendish type of jinni believed to be sired by Iblis.[6]

A ghoul is also a desert-dwelling, shapeshifting, demon that can assume the guise of an animal, especially a hyena. It lures unwary people into the desert wastes or abandoned places to slay and devour them. The creature also preys on young children, drinks blood, steals coins, and eats the dead,[7] then taking the form of the person most recently eaten.

I had thought that Mark's definition in the film was quite close to the folklore, and according to the wiki article, it was.

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You DO realize that Ghouls can be a term used in ANY lore, right? From Vampire myths to Zombies.

It isn't set in stone what it should be used for. Doesn't really take a genius to figure it out.

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You DO realize that Ghouls can be a term used in ANY lore, right? From Vampire myths to Zombies.

It isn't set in stone what it should be used for. Doesn't really take a genius to figure it out.
Sorry, but I DON'T realize that. If you could provide some evidence to back up what you say I'll look at it but all you have done is to make a statement.

What is your source?

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No response, as usual.

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"Servants of Vampires (according to lore) are called "Ghouls". They are basically 20% Vampires, with slight strength increase to help them do the deeds of their masters, even though they are mostly human."

Complete nonsense. Servants of Vampires are called "familiars" and while they are under the command of the vamp they serve, they're not ghouls. A ghoul is an undead creature mostly associated with Arabic folklore who preys on the dead. Please kill yourself - we don't need any more stupid people out here.

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"Servants of Vampires (according to lore) are called "Ghouls". They are basically 20% Vampires, with slight strength increase to help them do the deeds of their masters, even though they are mostly human."

Complete nonsense. Servants of Vampires are called "familiars" and while they are under the command of the vamp they serve, they're not ghouls. A ghoul is an undead creature mostly associated with Arabic folklore who preys on the dead. Please kill yourself - we don't need any more stupid people out here.
This was not called-for. I agree with your definition, BTW.

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Go kill yourself? Why do people feel the need to express themselves so harsh and explicit?
Anyone that feels the need to say such a thing must be in a whole lot of pain.

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I apologize if I offended you. It's just that the poster whom I responded to attacked me a year back with a virulent hate-filled diatribe so whenever his name pops up I tend to dump on him. Interestingly back then, him and buddies also told me to top myself so I like to respond in kind. Amazing that the horror section of the imdb message boards have the most polite and well-behaved people!

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"This was not called-for. I agree with your definition, BTW."

I apologize if I offended you. It's just that the poster whom I responded to attacked me a year back with a virulent hate-filled diatribe so whenever his name pops up I tend to dump on him. Interestingly back then, him and buddies also told me to top myself so I like to respond in kind. Amazing that the horror section of the imdb message boards have the most polite and well-behaved people!

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"This was not called-for. I agree with your definition, BTW."

I apologize if I offended you. It's just that the poster whom I responded to attacked me a year back with a virulent hate-filled diatribe so whenever his name pops up I tend to dump on him. Interestingly back then, him and buddies also told me to top myself so I like to respond in kind. Amazing that the horror section of the imdb message boards have the most polite and well-behaved people!
I try to be polite even of the other person is not. Might I presume to point something out to you? IMDb moderators are lurking on these boards and you perhaps will want to be mindful of that.

So, what did you think of Salem's Lot? I enjoyed all three versions of it; this film, the 2004 effort and the novel.

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"Servants of Vampires (according to lore) are called "Ghouls". They are basically 20% Vampires, with slight strength increase to help them do the deeds of their masters, even though they are mostly human."

Complete nonsense. Servants of Vampires are called "familiars" and while they are under the command of the vamp they serve, they're not ghouls. A ghoul is an undead creature mostly associated with Arabic folklore who preys on the dead. Please kill yourself - we don't need any more stupid people out here.

This was not called-for. I agree with your definition, BTW.

I have heard the term ghoul to describe a vampire servant. A familiar is more like a demonic entity under the service of a witch or warlock who usually inhabits an earthly creature such as a rat or a cat or sometimes they are depicted as looking like a typical demon.

Wow, I am surprised you never heard this term since you seem to be quite the expert in vampire lore.


http://whitewolf.wikia.com/wiki/Ghoul_(VTM)


http://www.turbokana.com/nde/nightcity/ports/vampire/ghouls.php


Most of the references I seem to find are related to Vampire The Masquerade however, besides the actual term "ghoul" there are many instances where vampires use their powers to enslave humans to do their bidding. Look no further than Stoker's Dracula and Renfield. Some people choose to call them ghouls others do not. I am not familiar (yes pun intended) with calling vampire servants familiars but it could be that some people just use the term as a one size fits all term to anyone willing to be a servant of evil however I think you will find my definition to be the most prevalent.








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Look at it this way: if you have a Master as your buddy you are pretty much invincible. If somebody at work pisses you off you can turn the Master on them. It's easy to see how Straker got his antique collection. Turn all of the people who have marvelous antiques and their collection becomes yours- and this helps you accumulate wealth and gives you the means to move about and lay low while planning your next conquest.

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That's very well said 'Vestdennis'!

O.k., 'Hollankreil' raised a good question 'What on Earth was Straker's motivation.'

I have to say that 'Jrdragon40' gave a worthwhile and succinct answer as follows:'He is under Barlow's control, to a degree, but also acts as a faithful servant for an implied promise of eternal life for his efforts.'

I am not sure that I will be able to improve on that as an answer but might be able to provide an extended piece of dialogue that hints in the same direction.

The 2005 (Illustrated Edition) of 'Salem's Lot' contains extended scenes and dialogue which were in the first draft of the novel, but left out of the final (published) draft.

One of the extended scenes is as follows:

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From 'Salem's Lot' (2005 Illustrated Edition) by Stephen King:

In the original ending to Susan (II) , Count Barlow (who is called Sarlinov in the original manuscript) and Straker meet out near the end of town to discuss how the novel’s heroes had been faring.

The Deep Cut Road skirts the marshes to the southwest of the town’s center, and then winds crazily through a series of folded ridges and sudden, knife-cut dips, and here the country was so wild that even the ubiquitous trailers were left behind. It was here that the big fire of 1951 burned at its most feverish, destructive pitch, and the growth has come back and formed into fervid tangles and nightmare patterns which lurch over and under huge deadfalls like a drunkard’s stagger. This country continues for only five miles or so, but it is five miles of the wildest land in the area. Now, with much of the fall foliage dashed from the trees and the wildly-leaning trunks painted by the moonlight, the woods looked like nothing so much as a three-dimensional maze constructed by a madman.

At nearly midnight on that Friday night, a black Packard – either a ’39 or a ’40 – was parked somewhere along this stretch of road, idling quietly. The exhaust drew a wavering line in the dark. A tall shadow – Straker – stood with one foot on the driver’s side running board, smoking one of his Turkish cigarettes.

Something stirred in the air, darker even than the pines that formed the scene’s backdrop. A large crow, or perhaps a bat. Its form seemed to shift, elongate, and change. For a moment it seemed oddly insubstantial, as if it might disappear altogether. And then there was a second shadow, standing beside the first.

‘Our father has been kind,’ Straker remarked.

‘Be it ever so,’ remarked the other. His hair was now a vigorous black, with the faintest speckles of gray at the temples. ‘Mr Ben Mears?’

‘In the hospital.’

‘And Mr Tibbits?’

‘In the constable’s lock-up. Mr Bush will attend to him later.’

‘Burke is out of the way?’

‘Yes. Not dead, but also in the hospital. He had a heart attack.’

‘It is sufficient. He had the most knowledge; and a certain . . . persuasiveness.’

‘But no zealotry.’

‘Ah, no.’ The figure with the vigorous black hair laughed softly. He did not in the least look like Bela Lugosi or Christopher Lee. ‘No zealotry there.’

‘Is Master Glick—’

‘Master Glick is about his business. Yes. Yes, indeed.’ The dark man laughed again.

Straker asked humbly: ‘Is it my time yet?’

‘Almost, my good servant. It is almost time.’

‘Our father is kind,’ Straker said, and there was the faintest touch of resignation in his voice.

‘Be it ever so.’

Together, in the darkness, they seemed to merge into a single shadow.

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The dialogue at the end of the passage: 'Is is my time yet?' seems to give a hint in the direction that 'Jrdragon40' had suggested, but please post with your own thoughts.

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Further to my previous post on here:

Anyone who has read the 1975 novel will know for sure that eternal life it one thing that Straker definitely DID NOT achieve.

Enough said.

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I guess power and long life. Vampires are supposed to be able to give their servants special powers and enable them to live for centuries. I imagine there would be more than a few people on planet Earth who would take on that role.

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I think if david soul shot him once, or even twice, maybe straker would have been ok, but he shot him like 5 times, and clearly theres only a limit to his power. I remember getting a bit freaked out when straker just sorta waltzed out and grabbed the guy like he was a doll, so clearly straker had some kinda superhuman strength and power that he clearly enjoyed as the barlows servant. but perhaps no one had attempted to actually confront him and shoot him down that many times before. I don't think he was under the vampires control, he came off as a man who enjoyed what he was doing and reaped the benefits of being barlows servant.

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Gary's good people though.

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I trust your judgement even though I don't know who he is or what he does :)

P.S I'm week six in to quitting cigarettes, I can be a miserable son of a b*tch at times! Not excusing my grumpyness but there's a reason for it. Peace to all :)

It's all a deep end.

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Don't you talk bad about gary overman on this here blog!

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Thanks to both you and stones for taking up for me. I gather that there were some comments made about me that were less than polite, but which the poster deleted.

My policy, as I have said before, is courtesy even to those that I think are not deserving of it. It will continue.

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I'm glad to say I missed it, whatever 'it' was.

'Gary_Overman' strikes me as a polite, intelligent, and well spoken guy.

So there.

Long may you run, Gary.

Cheers for now.



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I didn't post anything that could be deemed as offensive. I was being an ars*!

Apologies to all.

It's all a deep end.

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So, what was Straker's motivation for serving Barlow?

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I would say probably to get everlasting life, or more supernatural powers.

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