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Let's talk about this great show.


Shame that there is'nt more activity on this board, because Matador is a wonderfull tv-show.
So, if you are up to it, we could discuss, why Matador is such a great show. Why is that? The caracters, the plot, or something else?

I heard that it was based on the english tv-show; Upstairs-Downstairs, and what do you think about that?
I think Matador is so much more, I love Upstairs-downstairs, but that show is much more like a soap, and not so thought through and quality packed, as Matador. And I think, that the only resemblance is that you follow the "Downstairs" peoble and the "upstairs" peoble, and that is a nice touch, but that is the only thing the two tv-shows have in common, or what do you think?

An something I also heard, but can't get confirmed is; That Mr. Swan, was written out of the show, because the actor thought, that the show was based on him, that he was the main caracter, and that the show was based on him! If that's true, I think the actor is as annoying, as the caracter is in the show ;)
Have you heard something about that?
And by the way, which caracters do you love the most? I love Mrs. Fernado Møghe, she' so funny, and well thought through. And I love hating Mr. Swan ;)

So, what do you think, and do you have some interesting comments on the show?

Jm.

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I love Matador. Personally I think this show is one of the best I´ve ever seen, and I compare it to the best British productions, like The Forsythe Saga (the one from 1967). Matador is a wonderful mix of comedy and drama, character development, historic details, quality acting, stories within stories, wonderful locations and lovely music. I think perhaps no one in Matador is the main character, there´s so many parallel stories to tell, and each person in the small city is interesting. If I had to name a favourite character, I´d go for Maude. In many ways she seem like a fluffy airhead, and she is incompetent, spoiled and naive. But she also rise to a challenge, and it was genuinly touching to see her engage in saving Mr. Stein. But how could I pick, from such a rich gallery of characters. The pig dealer and his wife, they are solid gold. The waiter at the railway station café, Misse Møghe, Pusling, Laura, Agnes, the good doctor, they all deserve my praise. And the rude Viggo Skjold-Hansen and his vulgar wife Musse. The noble, good friend Baron von Rytger. The choleric oberst Ditlev Hachel.

In fact I was wondering about the annoying Mr. Schwann, who disappeared from the show without any explanation. He just went up in smoke.

I´d also like to mention the ending of each episode. They suddenly freeze the picture in the middle of a scene, and in such an intelligent way that they always get it right. Matador is a much better show than the original Upstairs Downstairs.

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Hr. Schwann was writing out because he in season two asked for a high wage increase, so Hr. Balling wrote him out. Much also because he was annoying :)

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I think Mr Schwann was written out from the show because the actor who played him had health problems. He was the eldest of them all (born: November 9, 1897) and died even before the last episode was aired (November 28, 1981).

Rudolf Schwann wasn't my favorite character but I'm sorry for him because he was poor and had no money in the evening of his life and that wasn't his fault. Partially at least.

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The way I see it, the music teacher Andersen simply took over Schwann's story arch. You'd just as well work it in your head, so that Andersen is in actual fact Schwann, as you're watching it. (Different actor n' stuff, but...)

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It is true that Andersen appeared just as Swan was about to die off screen.
But I don't see any similarities between the characters.

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Wow... It is hard to believe that the actor was over eighty years old! He didn't look that old at all!

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Yes, I agree, this show is worth so much more attention. But maybe the fact that it is a Danish production - and therefore less internationally known - is the main reason for this. We can hope that it becomes more known in other countries, because even though it is an old production it is completely timeless.

Anyway, I have just re-watched the whole series, (as my own personal Christmas calendar, 24 is a nice number!) and I still love it and am so fascinated how they managed to produce a series that could spellbind a whole nation, several times, even! Part of the reason I love "Matador" is that the story allows the characters to evolve. Maude steps into character when she has to face HC's adultery, Daniel learns to stand up for himself, Skjold-Hansen changes completely after his stroke, Agnes goes from being a humble - but obstinate - maid to becoming a successful and independent business woman, just to name a few of the personal developments. One of the less important characters, Mrs. Violet Vinter, changes after inheriting a small fortune from being a sympathetic and helpful person into a completely selfish drunk. But to me, the most important change in the story, is the one from enmity into friendship in the relation between the Varnaes and Skjern families. The first episode introduces the conflict and it is solved after so many intricate twists and turns in the 24th and final episode.

Maybe you won't agree with me on this, but watching the series also makes me a bit sad. Many, not to say most, of these lovely actors have passed away today and when you make a count, they make an impressively long list of brilliant 'creme de la creme' of Danish theater, that are with only a few exceptions, IMHO, replaced by actors of the same quality today.

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My husband never watched this, so we're spending our Easter in the company of the people of Korsbæk....

I always had a great love for the strong women in this show... Ingeborg, so down to earth and with her undying dedication to her family and her wit and ability to take her husband off his high horse with one very thought-filled remark... Elisabeth with her cool and calm demeanor hiding a soul so full of fire and passion for what she really wants, and yet she ends up time and time again sacrificing her happiness for others. And Agnes, who is so string and so independent and who grows into a successful businesswoman in no time, stepping up when need be...

I do not have a favorite episode, other maybe than the one where Vicky meets Herbert... there are so many star-crossed lovers in this show, and I love them all...

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jeg tror roligt i kan tale dansk... ingen andre ved det her eksisterer

Ned Charles:
THE REASON I DON'T LIKE BLACK RAPPERS
They don't rap about my life.

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Nej, det var også det jeg tænkte...

I'll tell you the meaning of life, but first you have to promise not to laugh...

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Du kan roligt tale dansk, för jag är svensk och skåning och van vid det danska språket.
Det här är det bästa jag sett i serieväg. Formidabla gestaltningar av människorna i Korsbaek. Min favorit är Agnes. En starkare människa får man leta efter.

Fingal61

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Jag är svensk också, men jag kommer från Ångermanland och är inte så bra på att förstå talad danska.

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Nå kom jeg litt tilfeldig til å gå inn igjen på denne diskusjonstråden, og dermed er jeg i gang: maraton-reprise på Matador. Hadde egentlig planlagt å vente med dette til sent i oktober/november, når kveldene er lange og mørke. Men nei, tante Møghe og hennes crew får meg igjen! Jeg elsker denne serien. Den tilhører mine absolutte favoritter i DVD-samlingen.

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While visiting Denmark for 5 days EVERYONE I met, when they discovered how much I liked Danish TV shows like Borgen and The Bridge said "Have you seen Matador?" "You MUST see Matador!", so before I left to return to the US, I bought the series. I am up to episode 15 and I LOVE it. It and Krøniken are two series worth getting hold of. They are both great.

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>> jeg tror roligt i kan tale dansk... ingen andre ved det her eksisterer

Der er jo ingen skade for at prøve at sælge den til resten af verden. Why not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzlcTXnH4QU&list=PL1zefP4G38zjKgg9L_8KMzuabVIe0S5wG

Whole damn thing with English subtitles.

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If anybody is out there, I want to talk about the character Mads Skjern.
Some sources make it seem like we should hate him for one reason or another.
That is not really fair though...
Sure, it is true that Mads put a rival store out of business.
But I don't think that he did anything illegal to become more successful than Arnesen.
Mads was also willing to help struggling people with loans.
Even the situation with Daniel is understandable to me.
Mads wanted his son to be his successor, and it was hard for him to see that that wouldn't happen.
And seriously, what father in the 1940s would have wanted his son to be gay?
Really, it is harder for me for understand his wife's anger towards him.
How had she expected him to react anyway?
I get a feeling that we're to supposed to cheer for Ingeborg when she calls him "sick in the head".
However, I just feel that she overreacts like crazy.
And by the way, I wonder if Oluf Larsen shouldn't have been Ingeborg's brother rather than her father?
They don't seem to be from two different generations to me.
Katrine could pass for her sister-in-law rather than as her mother as well...

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Right now, I have just four episodes left to watch.
But that means that I just watched the scene, where we find out that Holger has died.
And even at this point, it is clear that Ingeborg and Mads don't want Ellen to receive a gift from her father.
In fact, they seem to not want Ellen to remember that Mads never was her biological father!
Really? How is that fair?
Sure, it is hinted that Holger's marriage to Ingeborg had been a disaster.
I guess that him joining the Nazis also made her turn against him even more than before.
However, the man still was Ellen's father and should have been allowed to see his daughter.
And I wonder if we're supposed to side with Ingeborg and Mads on this issue?
Because I just hate their attitude towards Holger and their refusal to even talk to Ellen about this.

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But I do like that "Matador" was fair enough to not treat politics as an black and white issue.
No matter how much Ingeborg and Mads hated him, Holger never did anything bad on screen.
He must have made his mistakes, but seemed to be a decent man overall even after joining the Nazis.
And the poor guy wasn't even allowed to see his daughter one last time!
However, Gustav was more like an over the top caricature.
He seemed to be a spoiled brat though, who would have been annoying anyway.
Besides, he had clearly matured a lot when we saw him again after the war.
And on the other side of the spectrum, let's look at the Resistence and the "freedom fighters".
Kristen and Elisabeth and Louis are of course portrayed in a sympathetic light.
But as soon as the war was over, some of their allies picked up "traitors" to punish them.
We didn't see what happened after they were forced to stand with their arms up facing a wall.
But it was enough for Skjold Hansen to suffer a stroke before Elisabeth and Louis could save him.
Yeah, it is hard to sympathize with that movement after that!

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