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No one thought to shoot the bus' tires ?


That was so hilarious, the bus moving at 5 mph down a long street and all the cops shooting at the windows. Any damage to the tires would have disabled the bus.

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I just saw this today for the first time, I wondered the same thing. All of these experienced cops just discharging round after round at the windows and frame while the tires were untouched........I think the whole movie was a dud though

Whoooooa Bundy!

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They did, Clint just thought ahead and filled the tires with concrete. That really works, just like quarter inch steel plate stopping .223 rounds. That's my theory, anyways. :)

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Also, cops had the bus completely circled and they were still shooting the bus, as if there was no way their bullets might miss or go through the bus and hit officers on the other side of them. Incredibly dumb.

Then Clint Eastwood and the girl finally exit the bus and they don't shoot. Oh no. Instead they let Clint take a guy hostage right in the middle of them all, then let another guy start shooting, then let the girl shoot, while every cop just stands there right in the line of fire like an idiot. 1/10, a score I rarely give.

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Also, cops had the bus completely circled and they were still shooting the bus, as if there was no way their bullets might miss or go through the bus and hit officers on the other side of them. Incredibly dumb.
It's a movie. If you aren't willing to suspend realism for the sake of entertainment, so be it. I think the whole thing is done with a bit of tongue-in-cheek. The mere image of a reinforced bus coming down a city street and being riddle upon by a massive police squad is quite a spectacle for the eyes.

If I'm not mistaken, Eastwood had shown Don Siegel a rough cut of the film or something and Siegel said he was waiting for the shot that showed all the dead cops on the side of the street- something to that effect. Eastwood was not pleased with the comment.

When I think of 'The Gauntlet', the art poster used to promote the film comes to my mind - it was really successful in promoting the film. It's completely ridiculous and over-the-top. If you haven't seen it, it's a painting of a super muscular Eastwood in a super heroic pose, wielding a gun in the air with one hand and a very sexy Sondra Locke on the other. They're both standing in front of a gun-riddled bus, their clothes are in shreds. It looks like it's from a comic book. I think it conveys that sense of tongue-in-cheek I was referring to. And I just wanted an excuse to talk about how I love this artwork.

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It's Franzetta artwork. He and Vellejo were two of the best. There was just something about their style that put them above their contemporaries.

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LOL. And even more ridiculous is why they didn't just block the roads with some concrete barriers.

Still, ya gotta love this movie for its sheer entertainment value, especially for a mid 70's movie.

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No officer thought of a plan to board the bus under cover? Or shoot through the front eye slit?

And in the several scenes, why are hundreds of the [all-white] 1970's cops shooting across the street at each the bus- but potentially hitting each other? Duh.

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The reason for no concrete barriers and whatnot is because the cops were under direct orders from Blakelock to shoot and kill, not to disable the bus and arrest Ben and Gus or anything like that.

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Any damage to the tires would have disabled the bus.

No it wouldn't. A bus has a powerful engine and a lot of torque. You could drive it a long way on just the rims, particularly at 5mph. What's perhaps more surprising is that none of the bullets appeared to hit the tyres despite so many being fired. You'd think some would hit them purely by accident.

However there are far more ludicrous things in the last 5 minutes of the film.

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I'm just thankful Clint didn't even get nicked inside the house where 10,000 bullets must have been shot into it - causing the house to collapse!!! Seriously the whole movie is silly and ridiculous but the bus scene took the cake. Still in all it's fun to watch despite it all.

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That was so hilarious, the bus moving at 5 mph down a long street and all the cops shooting at the windows.


Shooting the tires would have constituted the easy way out, sort of like shooting someone in the back. Indeed, the point was not realism, but to feel the full force of a police fusillade and the mass conformity and mechanical inhumanity that it represented. Besides, did the Indians shoot the horses in Stagecoach (John Ford, 1939), a film widely regarded as a classic?

The Gauntlet is not a police training video, it's a deadpan allegory that is deliberately over-the-top in its action staging. If Eastwood had not established that tone early on, then the criticism of the film's conclusion would be more valid. However, Eastwood was clearly making something of a satire, combined with biting social commentary and intricate character development.

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"Shooting the tires would have constituted the easy way out"

No, it would have constituted logic which this film lacked from start to finish. There's suspending disbelief, then there's treating the audience like complete idiots like this film did.

"did the Indians shoot the horses in Stagecoach (John Ford , 1939, a film widely regarded as a classic?"

That's two films on this board you've slammed - Stagecoach, and North By Northwest - in order to try and defend this crap. Picking apart a film in order to defend another shows no signs of desperation at all LOL. Oh, and Stagecoach had some logic to it. Some Indian tribes would not only sell/trade humans but horses too, and generally anything else. Whereas, there's absolutely no good reason for the cops not to shoot the tires in this.

"Eastwood was clearly making something of a satire, combined with biting social commentary and intricate character development"

LMAO. Sure he was.

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>No, it would have constituted logic

No, it wouldn't have, because it wouldn't have worked.

>There's suspending disbelief, then there's treating the audience like complete idiots like this film did.

Ironically, anyone who thinks that shooting the tires is going to stop a bus (or a car, or a truck) from driving along at 5 MPH is a "complete idiot".

Most people already know that you can drive on flat tires, either from experience or intuitively (it is really, really obvious to anyone who has a modicum of understanding of how the world around them works, that it can be done), but since you lack that modicum of understanding, here's a short video where you can see it being done:

https://youtu.be/sI7TQ9MxnQA

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