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What do you think happened?


What do you think would have happened if Soap had one more episode to explain the unanswered cliffhangers?
Here were the situations we were left wondering about.

1) Jodie is left hypnotized as an old Jewish man, hugging his fiance.

2) Burt is about to get jumped by drug dealers.

3) Chester is going to shoot Danny & Chester's wife in bed.

4) Jessica is in front of a firing squad of El Puerco's enemy General Sandia. We hear the gunshots & she flinches. the film freezes & the credits roll.

Okay, here's what I think would have happened if the show went on for one more episode.
1) Mary would grab Bob & hit Jodie over the head, restoring his memory. However, he would also return to being gay again.

2) Burt fights his way out the room with the thugs (Hey, he is Bat Campbell!). he would return home a changed man, realizing his family is more important than his career.

3) Chester pulls the trigger & the gun jams. He colapses crying & pleading like a baby. Danny feels sorry for him & offers to help Chester with his duel with El Puerco. Danny tells Chester to let El Puerco use the jammed gun in the duel. When El Puerco's gun jams in the duel. Chester, instead of killing him, tells him to leave his country, never to return. El Puerco leaves.

4) Jessica suddenly looks down & sees she isn't shot. The camera turns & the squad, overcome with Jess' beauty, has shot General Sandia instead. With no leader, General Sandia's men decide they will let El Puerco take over. They return Jessica home, where they all live happily ever after.

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Jodie's a mystery, because I thought he'd recover after seeing his gf. So maybe he sees his kid and gets reminded that he's a father, since he went to so much trouble for her. Or maybe the alien kid zaps hims memory back. Burt's a tough one, because he's being ganged up on from both sides. So let's assume that Chester's in a room across from the crackhouse, and his aim sucks(as explained in an earlier episode), and he shoots through the window and kills the guy behind Burt's assailant. Jessica hears the gunshots, but finds out the bullets hit the ceiling, because El Puerko's posse ambushed them.

But anyway, if would've been nice if they at least included a closing video of Susan Harris describing how she hoped the series would end.

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i thought that jessica was shot and killed since later on benson she appeared as a ghost which would signal that she was killed

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You are correct. Benson suggested Jessica did not survive the firing squad since she appeared to Benson as a ghost.

I believe but not 100% sure that Jessica even told Benson something to the effect of "I was about to be shot in a firing squad and the next thing I know, I am here".

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You are correct about jessica being on Benson, but she is not dead. She tells benson, I know I am not dead I am in a Coma. she says this at the end of the episode.



Cameron

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If she was in a coma on Benson it probably coincided with er coma from the beginning of season 4 and not the end...

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I think the guy behind Burt is independent of the people in the room planning to kill him.

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I didn't know that until I came here and read the threads :( YEP that would be Susan's wish then.

Oh how upset I was watching that last scene last night....I just couldn't fathom how far off the rails Soap went that last season!!! WHY...they royally screwed it up IMO. I knew that as an 18 year old watching that episode the first time :(

ALL the cliffhangers were horrible, way-way out there and plain old stupid.

Lastly, Billy (Jimmy was so hot in the later seasons!) totally wasted after his Leslie storyline? Did he go to college in real life? Something definitely changed?

It says Susan was involved in all eps (on here) yet others posted that she left to do her other shows.

We were robbed and YES it would have been NICE if there was some kind of interview on the dvd about that???

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Ohhh; so Chester didn't kill Danny and Annie after all? We were left to wonder? I don't recall that whole epsode/ending and had wondered for years.

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1) Jodie is left hypnotized as an old Jewish man, hugging his fiance.
I think that 1) His fiance leaves him
2) The doctors Retry hypnotizing him and it works. He is back to normal

2) Burt is about to get jumped by drug dealers.
They attack him and he recovers in the hospital. He realizes how bad he is behaving and asks for their forgiveness

3) Chester is going to shoot Danny & Chester's wife in bed.
They scuffle and he shoots his wife by accident. and she dies

4) Jessica is in front of a firing squad of El Puerco's enemy General Sandia. We hear the gunshots & she flinches. the film freezes & the credits roll.
She survives because the firing squad gets ambushed by American soldiers

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If there had been a season 5, it would have been discovered that Jessica's family saved her by replacing the bullets in the firing squad's guns with blanks.

The other loose threads? I have no idea.

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Wait a minute... who am I here?

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Ahhh, no.

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I love your ideas!! They sound awesome. I could see all of them happening. It's really really pathetic that they cancelled the show like they did. really sucky on their part

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This cliffhanger has bugged me for years!!lol

-I think that Jesica was probably shot(since she says as much to Benson), but she wakes up from her coma, and manages to make a daring escape back to America.

-I agree with the poster who said that Chester probably came to his senses and realized he was still in love with Jessica, leaving Danny and the wife in bed, unharmed.

-Burt would have used some kind of silly distraction to his advantage and won the day...before realizing how close he came to dying, and that it's not worth it. He resigns and goes back to a more reliable around-the-house guy...probably driving Mary insane over time, lol.

-And I like the idea that Mary would hit Jody with Bob, restoring his memory, but not immediately. They tended to milk the shticky stuff over several episodes(ie, Burt being abucted and cloned).

-Also, I'm willing to bet Corinne would've come back, most likely to help Jessica to recover from her wounds.

I would love to see something like Soap as a daytime 5-day-a-week show. Like Passions, but actually funny instead of painful. Maybe a spinoff with a "new generation", maybe with Corinne and Eunice as the matriarchs. That would be fun to watch.




Deeeeeeep hurting!!!!!!!

OH MY GOD! YOU CAN'T KILL BECCA

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I agree that that would be fun!! Although Corrine and Eunice are older than Jessica and Mary were by about 10 years (looked at all their birth dates on IMDB and Jessica (Kathryn Helmond) was the oldest in 1977 at 49 - the rest were within 4 or so years of her). Corrine (Diana Canova) would now be 57, how depressing LOL!

But a soap opera that's supposed to be funny would, maybe, save the soap opera genre which is sinking fast...

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While I thought the third season was just as good as the first two,I found the final season to be most frustrating.Benson left for his own show at the start of season 3,and Corinne split at the beginning of season 4,due to Diana Canova getting a series of her own as a totally different character.These losses,coupled with more writers each year,led to a "too many cooks" kind of situation.The early episodes were solely devised with superb skill by the extraordinary writing of Susan Harris,but the later seasons seemed to get away from the original concept.That final year saw all our favorite characters become shockingly unlikable,especially the very loving relationship between Burt and Mary,which was so vital to the show's longevity,and given the warm regard the two actors had for each other.After hearing them both proclaim their undying love for three seasons,it was a huge disappointment to see their relationship fall apart in the closing entries.Mary had earlier described a woman whose husband was always working,who has Cocoa Puffs and vodka for breakfast each morning,and now Mary herself is reduced to being an alcoholic with an alien baby,a storyline that went nowhere.Jessica's affair with El Puerco simply left me cold,and it lasted the whole year.For me,only Danny remained consistently interesting throughout the entire run; however,once they killed off his wife Elaine(the only character other than Peter Campbell treated in such a fashion),it seemed that all of his storylines lasted about ten episodes apiece.Chuck and Bob remained exactly the same from beginning to end,as did The Major,unchanging but indispensible.Jodie remained a tricky character to write for,but generally remained interesting,until the very end,when he winds up an old jew(perhaps in homage to his lost friend Barney Gerber,played by Harold Gould,who never reappeared after episode 12).Eunice remained one of the least interesting characters,while Billy,who had decent storylines for three seasons,became a general in El Puerco's army and virtually disappeared as a viable,intriguing character.Jessica certainly held up her end of things,but it was an uphill battle,while no other character went through so many changes as Chester,who emerged unscathed in the end(though it was just a lazy cop-out to have him be the killer of Peter Campbell,since he never knew Peter,who recognized his killer before he died).One final problem was that the new characters that were introduced the last year simply weren't strong enough to keep audiences from losing interest,especially the boring revolutionaries.Benson's replacement,Saunders,as played by the distinguished Roscoe Lee Browne,was by necessity a very different character than his predecessor,but a solid addition that could have been disastrous.Solid pros like Dick Miller,Richard Libertini,Nita Talbot,Doris Roberts,Jack Gilford,Lynne Moody,and Barbara Rhoades,like Harold Gould,could only have been good for the show,and it's a shame they didn't have larger roles.Still one of the most indelible comedy/drama series in television history,and it would be interesting to see how future generations react to 20th century programming.

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I so agree!

I've been watching the whole series instantly on Netflix, and I'm half-way through season 4. Does anyone remember if there was a day or time change for season 4? I ask for two reasons. When a network WANTS to kill a popular series, they often put it on on an unpopular night - Friday night comes to mind, or opposite a ratings giant. Or they continually change the night so fans can hardly find it. The second reason I ask is because I realize that I never saw season 4! I know I saw the first three - even though it was so long ago I wasn't sure what was going to happen - I would remember WHEN things happened, if you KWIM. I have no feeling like that for season 4, it is all a surprise with no recognition. I loved Soap and the only reason I can imagine that I didn't watch season 4 is because it may have been put opposite one of my more beloved series - like "Dallas" or something - or on a different night when I had something going on.

But season 4 has been such a disappointment. The whole "Chester is Danny's father" thing is stupid. Making Jessica unable to forgive Mary - even for just a few episodes - is stupid. Jessica is one of the most caring and empathetic TV characters of all time, and she couldn't view things from her much loved sister's viewpoint - that there Mary was, pregnant by a "secret boyfriend", finding out that this boyfriend was going to marry her sister, out of the blue like that?? There was no "betrayal" there, Chester was not involved with Jessica when Mary became pregnant. If anything Mary was the "betrayed" one. See how personally I take it all LOL? But my favorite storyline, by far, is the relationship between Jessica and Mary and this whole story line ruined that. My favorite scene of the series, by far, was Mary in Jessica's arms when they both thought Jess was dying, and how Mary had to leave to give birth. It was so touching. When I saw that scene again I remembered it so clearly and the way it made me feel.

If I had been watching it I think I would have stopped right there with Jessica declaring that she could "never forgive Mary", but I know I didn't see any of it. I will finish the "instant watch" because it doesn't demand any commitment, but if I had to wait each week for the next episode, I would drop it at this point, easily, although deeply disappointed.

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For the first 3 seasons of SOAP,it had a terrific time slot on Tuesday nights,following HAPPY DAYS,LAVERNE AND SHIRLEY,and THREE'S COMPANY at 9:30PM.The 4th season switched the show to Wednesday nights at 9:30PM,following TAXI,and this lasted from November 12,1980-January 28,1981.Even the TV guides gave up advertising the show before January,when it went off the air for 2 months.The last gasp began on Monday nights at 10:00 PM(March 9-April 20),the show airing 6 one-hour broadcasts to get it off the air as quickly as possible(12 episodes crammed into 6 nights).To be accurate,there were 85 broadcasts on network television,with 8 one-hour episodes split in half in syndication,producing 93 episodes at 30 min each.IMDB lists an additional episode(87th)with a broadcast date of ??? but this is an error that has yet to be corrected,no more shows aired after April 20,1981.I choose not to include the 3 "recap" episodes that filled in audiences on the previous year,due to the fact that SOAP went off the air during late spring-summer reruns,making it necessary to keep viewers aware of the events that led up to the new season(but I clearly remember Beatrice Arthur as Jessica's guardian angel deciding on her fate to begin the 4th season,and IMDB does include this entry,listed as episode 70,but it appears as-Season4,Episode 0).So SOAP enjoyed 3 seasons in the same time slot on Tuesday nights,only to switch over to Wednesday and Monday nights its final year.

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So it was moved around that last year. And I remembered something else. (Something I really should have thought of in the first place!) I had a baby on Oct. 12, 1980. As I recall, the next 6 months consisted of getting up twice every night and then up for the day at 6 a.m.! I doubt I was watching anything on at 9 or later for those months LOL. Even if things got better for me around April, I would have been lost trying to pick up "Soap" at that point, and wouldn't have liked the story lines anyway - but I don't think I even tried, just have no memory of seeing it at all.

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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but...I seem to remember that Jessica did die. I remember her appearing as a ghost to the Gov. on Benson (he was her cousin).

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That is because Jessied died in the last soap episode that never wasnt on air. She was shooted by a south american troop. Because of that, she did appear as a ghost on Benson.

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The "ghost" said she was in a COMA, not dead.

Somehow, I see something absurd happening with Jessica, such as:

The sound of firing is the squad itself being shot by snipers. Jessica gets freed and instead of El Puerco being made leader, SHE gets made leader. El Puerco later, out of jealously, decides to off her with poison - which instead puts her in a coma (leading to the Benson scene).

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I always figured that as Burt walked into the room, he saw the guys with the guns and ducked quickly and they shot the person about to stab him. He then runs off.

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