Doesnt anyone else think the gym teacher went to far. - Carrie (1976) Discussion

[–] deem_bastille 9 years ago

went to far?

lose her jumping??

cusing... cursing or cussing.

slapping because someone is absolutely hysterical was considered normal and 'what to do' in those days.

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[–] InherentlyYours 8 years ago

Slapping a student wasn't taken lightly in the mid 70's. It was that students are generally too intimidated to speak up when it happens. And Miss Collins taking a personal interest in Carrie would be unacceptable back then also. There were lines drawn between teacher/student then. It wasn't that long ago, at least in my mind.

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[–] deem_bastille 8 years ago

the line drawn had to do with the fact that kids were disciplined at home and home respected teachers.

Reading the paper can really be depressing. Mr. Dithers fired Dagwood again.

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[–] dayvit78 8 years ago

"It wasn't that long ago, at least in my mind."

40+ years ago is a long time regardless of whether it feels like it or not. All the teachers are dead or close to it and the students are retiring ;)

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[–] I_Love_Hutch 8 years ago

And Miss Collins taking a personal interest in Carrie would be unacceptable back then also.
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[–] InherentlyYours 8 years ago

Teachers in those days still had a policy of how to interact with students. The Nancy Allen character was actually right: if more kids reported teachers, they would be reprimanded, but teachers knew students would be fearful/intimidated of doing so for not being believed. Slapping across the face wasn't permitted (nor allowances for gym teachers)

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[–] deem_bastille 8 years ago

either you are a troll or you should sue your childhood town's educational system.

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[–] rascal67 8 years ago

Troll of the first order.

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[–] siccmaderecz 9 years ago

it's a movie, don't think she went to harsh

I wasn't even born when this came out, not until 1981. But i clearly remember kids getting paddled in 2nd grade at a Catholic school I attended in Louisiana in the 80s. From what i have talked to with my parents about this, they had to sign a waiver allowing it, which luckily they didn't at the time lol. So i was sparred the paddle. But did have some punishment in principles office, i recall having to write almost every work out of a section of the Dictionary, over a 3 day period. In retrospect, the ass whoopin would of been a better choice lol

heard a kid gettin the paddle in the office, was like a chamber of horrors for a young child as myself

I don't recall teachers dealing out the pain in class though, at least nothing serious. We moved from there to California, and at that time it wasn't allow in that state as far as I know

nothing wrong with a little ass whoopin now and then for a kid imo

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[–] johnny_burnaway 9 years ago

When I was in 9th grade (late 80's), one of my teachers told us about a teacher she'd had back in the day who she was very afraid of. She said not long after she'd moved on from that class, he ended up killing one of his students by getting a little too rough with the discipline.

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[–] snickz 9 years ago

Growing up in the 70's, I remember if I got in trouble in Middle School, you would be offered a choice. Either get paddled by the Dean, usually three whacks from a wooden paddle, or a three day suspension. I would take the whacks, because that would be nothing compared to what my Dad would do to me if I came home with a suspension. Times have changed. Now disrespectful and disruptive kids run the classroom instead of the teachers.

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[–] northernlad 9 years ago

No, by the standards in those days, she didn't go too far. I myself saw students get slapped by teachers...maybe not as hard as the teacher in the movie did it, but still it happened. No one thought anything of it back then. Now by today's standards, no way in hell she would ever by with such a thing.

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[–] Kawada_Kira 9 years ago

From a legal standpoint, probably, but morally, Chris deserved whatever she got and more and I couldn't blame the teacher.

The slap for Carrie was just a "snap out of it" slap, not meant to hurt her.

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[–] sage2112 9 years ago

She went to far where? Like the Far East?
Oh you mean "too far". Moron.
And no.

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[–] horrormovie_snob 8 years ago

I teach high school and Ms. Collins is one of my favorite things about this movie. I've always said that we could improve the state of today's youth if we had more teachers like Ms. Collins.

What I've experienced doing this job is that students knowing how far you're allowed to go can be very dangerous. I mean, I've worked at schools where giving a simple and polite demand like, "Please take your hat off while you're inside" is met with a stern, "Go *beep* yourself." You could give them a detention for it, sure, but they'll still tell you to go pound it up your ass in so many words. They know that there's nothing else you can do. It's a very easy system to play. They know they're not going to get hit, they know we can't really yell at them, and they know they probably won't get kicked out. That's not preparing students for the real world.

I think teenagers need that kind of unpredictability from authority figures like parents and teachers. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to hit any of the kids, but if they knew that I could if I wanted, it would go a long way.

Say, for example, an 18 year old kid, who for his entire life has had zero accountability for his obnoxious behavior because he knew how to play the system, goes to a college party. He has a bit too much to drink and becomes disorderly, so the party hosts ask him to leave. Because he's never really been obligated to follow an order given to him by another person, he refuses to leave; so the hosts force him out and give him a pretty good beating once they're outside. Now the police get involved, parents get the university involved, there are probably going to be lawsuits and all kinds of headaches for a handful of people. And it's all because this kid was never properly held responsible for his actions. And what's worse is that he may not think that he did anything wrong to earn that beating, so he won't even learn from it.

Now suppose that whole ordeal could've been avoided had his freshman gym teacher given him a few cracks for mouthing off in class. It kind of sounds like a decent trade-off.

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[–] deem_bastille 8 years ago

I don't know where you teach but I teach elementary school in the south Bronx.

Things have gotten better over time but we still have some problems. the problems aren't the kids, the problem is the parents. The parents have no idea that they are the child's first teachers and they have no idea that they can be 'fired' from that job just as well as paid teachers can be.

I wish we could do a citizens arrest/do something 'drastic' when a child gets out of hand [they are not students if they are at school just to terrorize or because their parents can't stand them], I think we should be able to give them a dose of their own medicine. if no one else will, then the child continues to win and the others lose out or run the risk of getting hurt/worse.

Reading the paper can really be depressing. Mr. Dithers fired Dagwood again.

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[–] InherentlyYours 8 years ago

I was in junior-high/ high school in the 70's. The kids didn't have to fear being smacked in order to behave. The kids' behavior in class depended on which teacher it was. Some teachers naturally commanded respect, while others got laughed at in class (and weren't aware they were being laughed at) Because a teacher knows their A-b-c's , doesn't mean they are particularly bright

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[–] InherentlyYours 8 years ago

Of course. But factors like whether he is bigger and stronger than me, or me serving time in jail for it, or losing my job, makes me think before I act based on what I want to do.

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[–] GIRobotII 8 years ago

I must agree, InherentlyYours. Some educators are full of s**t. They think they have a fundamental right to simply decide on their own who is guilty, and who to punish, instead of investigating objectively, the whole story.

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[–] InherentlyYours 8 years ago

Many of them are on a power trip ,and like to have others think of them in high-esteem because they are "school-teachers". I'm not impressed.

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[–] GIRobotII 8 years ago

I know. I'm not impressed either. They are not better than others. They don't teach, so much as they program and intimidate.

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[–] americanadian25 8 years ago

Maybe somewhat. But its not like Chris wasn't asking for it. Besides, she was such a nasty bitch, it was hard to feel sorry for her.
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