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You people need to wake up!!!


This movie is horrible. It is an absolute abomination to anything holy. It is crude, vulgar, and disgusting in every aspect. The only part I liked about the whole damn thing was when they flipped the switch at the end and the credits came up. This movie is about as bad as Maniac. I give this movie a -5. Ulghh is it ever horrible.

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I'm glad it's unholy. I think I'll melt some glow-in-the-dark Jesus nightlights in your honor.

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Agreed, this movie was great and hilarious.. sure it was crude and disgusting but thats the point, it was made to disgust people thats why its so brilliant.. oh i have a question about the movie.. when taffy runs away to her dads.. is divine her dad but without all the makeup and everything?? it looks like him but just wasn't sure....

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"But Female Trouble is the funniest movie ever made, as far as I'm concerned"

"I agree, it is a masterpiece"

It's always astonishing to see how diferent people see the same movie and come out with such a vastly different opinion! Seriously, I mean that in the most positive way and will never tell anyone to "just SHUT UP!" like an elementary school child, just as I would expect everyone else to respect my opinion which basically boils down to this,
"Why the *beep* did John Waters think people would want to see this?". It really is utter crap with no redeaming quality. If I had to guess he did movies like this (especially Pink Flamingos) for the shock value, that's it. I do not believe he was trying to prove a point or point out injustice or any other baloney.
He just thought to himself, probably while on the can, "I wonder if people would pay to see Divine eat crap. I wonder if people would want to see Divine give birth. I can make some money and start a career....". I am happy to never see Divine again.

Seriously folks, I respect Waters and like some of his movies and do think he is a fun host for the IFC awards. But in my opinion this movie is crap. Just like someone said, it's not my cup of tea.

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Oh dear...to call this movie crap is totally missing the point. Now if you like crap, may I suggest about 95% of the current top ten? Now THATS crap, my darling. Get a funny bone graft, or ask a donor.

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When Waters writes something funny I will laugh.

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haha yea that is Divine you can tell by his eyebrows or penis if you pay attention enough durring John Waters' films

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I don't hate John Waters movies. The repulsive subject matter does not bother me in the least. I can deal with bad acting, and I can deal with horrible production values (I loved Maniac, by the way.) I really wanted to like Female Trouble, but the problem is that it's supposed to be satire, but it's just not funny. How in the world can anyone say it's hilarious? It tries to be funny, I guess, but it just isn't. And don't tell me that I don't get the joke. I get it. It just didn't make me laugh. I've seen funnier movies on the History channel. It was a really, really, really bad movie that made me wonder half way through, "Why the hell am I watching this?" And don't yell at me for not turning it off. If I start a movie, I finish it, no matter how bad it is. This one might be the worst I've ever seen. And whoever said the acting was "good when it needed to be" must have been watching some other movie. The acting in this was bad, bad, bad all the way through. I've seen better acting in a porno movie. I think this movie just appeals to people who are really craving for something different. I guess I can understand, but that doesn't make it a great movie. Sorry, everyone. I certainly don't mean to offend, but Roger Ebert was right on this one.

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Well, rahbe and sacredrite, as the Romans said, "de gustibus non disputandum" (don't argue about taste). I tend to think your difference from me and a lot of others on this board is a matter of taste. But I'd be interested in seeing what you think of my interpretation on the "So wholesome" thread. Maybe that might suggest where the difference in taste in rooted (i.e., in what personality traits.) But believe me, "this isn't a test": there's no right or wrong answers. Not everybody can appreciate all movies. I think the idea that one person can judge all movies is a fallacy. They're too diverse for that.

sacredrite, as you'll see there, I don't see this movie as a "satire" in the normal sense. Yes, it makes fun of some aspects of the world, but I don't think it's really ABOUT the real world in some ways. The story makes too little sense for that, as I said in one of my postings on this thread. But it's possible I misunderstand what would make something a "satire."

You said you agreed that the acting in FT is bad. How would "good" acting improve the film? If the mean girl at the beginning who tells on Dawn when she's eating in class had been a "better" actress, how would that have made the scene better? I think the fact that her acting isn't quite believable makes the scene all the funnier. The same for Edith Massey, "Aunt Ida." When people see the film, especially the scene where she's writhing in pain on the floor after Gator announces he's leaving for Detroit, they often comment on how bad an actress she is. But what would she need to be a better actress for? Maybe it's true that a better actress would show more convincingly what it's like for a loved one to leave suddenly, but why would that improve the film? This is not a drama, but a crazy, no-holds-barred romp by a group of people having a lot of fun ridiculing everything we tend to hold "sacred" or "decent" in the world. So maybe that does make it a satire. But it has no need to be accurate in the ways serious films need to be.

However, as I said in "So wholesome," I do think that Divine's performance in the jail scene is genuinely dramatic in an interesting way. It took a good actor/actress to do what she did there. That's why I said "the acting is bad when it needs to be and good when it needs to be."

"Extremism in the pursuit of moderation is no vice."

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"It is crude, vulgar, and disgusting in every aspect" everything that makes this movie great

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I need more parts...

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Final word If you liked it your that much more awesome and deserving of life. If you didn't you are a pussy and should have acid thrown in your eyes.

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I love this much so much. This is art. I like it more than Pink Flamingos and alot of the newer John Waters stuff (even tho I do love all of his flicks). Its just.....god I love it. God bless John Waters and Devine (rip).

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I saw this movie for the first time on IFC the other night. I knew that this movie and Pink Flamingos were supposed to be tasteless, but I had never seen either. I must say, I am going to rent Pink Flamingos very soon. I thought Female Trouble was extremely funny. Sure...it's over the top and tasteless,a nd the last 30 minutes seem to drag a bit...but it is hilarious. It's a dark comedy about taboo topics, such as child abuse (mental, physical, and sexual) and the dismemberment of pesky neighbors, with horrible acting and memorable lines. And to think, none of this would happen if Dawn's parents had just bought her those damn cha-cha heels.

I feel that maybe my gay card should be taken away for having waited so long to see this.

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Dawn Davenport and her big utters, why she is crude, vulgar, and disgusting not to mention Fat very Fat. This is the girl we all want to take home to meet our mothers. Dawn is the portrait of what every Prom Queen should be.
VOTE DAWN DAVENPORT FOR PROM QUEEN!
The movie is just piss your pants funny!

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"Writing a book, hippie? Why don't you go listen to some folk music and give me a break!"

Female Trouble is brilliant and the funniest movie ever made, right next to Pink Flamingos. It'd be one thing if you'd posted a proper review of this film instead of just saying it's disgusting and vulgar and crude. It's supposed to be! That's what makes it funny.

Oh, and Maniac is excellent, too.

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For some one with strong morals and low tolerance for filth you sure did watch the whole movie.

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"It is an absolute abomination to anything holy."
You are an abomination to anything intelligent.

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it is probibly the worst movie I have ever seen! OMG!!! what the hell is wrong with you people.

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To me, this movie is so gross and discusting that I feel I have to take a shower after watching it! But I Love it! This movie is soooo much better than Hairspray!

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I don't think it's as bad as Pink Flamingos.

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No one clampted your eyes open and made you watch it! 'UNHOLY?!!' What a dumb review. This JW movie wasnt even about religion! Why dont you have your mommy hold your hand as you watch a Disney Channel original movie!

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In my opinion, this movie is the cornerstone of American film. Waters conveys his message through primal human emotions. Yes, it is satircal on family values and lifestyles. What makes this film great is that is crosses the boundaries and doesn't care who he pisses off. Of course the Jerry Falwells and the like will have a predisposed hate to it. I was thankful that someone made a complete 180 on how Leave it to Beaver and Happy Days portrayed the American family. This movie shows a more realistic approach to the modern day American family.

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John Waters certainly wouldn't find bad reviews about his movies offending at all. So those who hate his movies can just lay off ... John Waters once stated that having someone vomit while watching one of his movies was like getting a standing ovation. Although a slow but steady integration into mainstream filmmaking has tempered that kind of thinking, Waters remains one of cinema's most audacious practitioners.

Born into an upper-middle-class Catholic family, Waters grew up in Baltimore, which serves as the locale of all his movies. Childhood interests in car accidents and murders marked him as an unusual personality. As a teenager, he began making 8mm films, largely influenced by the experimental and exploitation films that he sought out while skipping school.

His crude early short films, sporting titles like HAG IN A BLACK LEATHER JACKET and EAT YOUR MAKEUP, were screened only in the Baltimore area, but did spark the genesis of Waters's Dreamland Productions stock company. Made up of his friends and neighbors, the Dreamlanders came to include Divine, a 300-pound transvestite, and Edith Massey, a snaggle-toothed barmaid and thrift shop owner, as well as Mink Stole, Cookie Mueller, Mary Vivian Pearce, Danny Mills and David Lochary.

Waters's first 16mm sound feature, MULTIPLE MANIACS (1971), established the pattern for most of his work: a complex plot involving a "family;" vicious attacks on middle-class manners and morals, religion and other sacred cows; and an overriding mission to offend even the most jaded moviegoer.

PINK FLAMINGOS (1972), made for $10,000, was Waters's first film to receive national distribution, becoming a hit on the midnight movie circuit. Divine played "the filthiest person alive;" she finds her title challenged by the Marbles (Stole and Lochary), who kidnap women, have their servant rape them with a syringe and then sell the babies to lesbian couples. The film assaults the viewer with a barrage of repellent images, such as the hefty Massey splayed out in a play pen wearing a bra and girdle and covered with the half-eaten eggs that are her passion. The notorious finale, in which Divine eats dog excrement (in one seamless take from dog to drag queen), remains one of the most sickening sights captured on film.

Nonetheless, Waters plays everything on a broadly comic scale. Dialogue is ridiculously melodramatic and performances are overblown. The sets, designed by Waters's regular art director (and later, production designer), Vincent Peranio, are the essence of kitsch. As bad taste is elevated to a new aesthetic, the audience must laugh to keep from gagging. The act of attending and professing to enjoy one of Waters's midnight movies became a safe way to thumb one's nose at the establishment during the Me Decade.

Divine returned to star in FEMALE TROUBLE (1975), Waters's rumination on fashion, fame and criminality. The film demonstrated that the director had discovered the last exploitable subject in film—the idea of taste itself.

In DESPERATE LIVING (1977), Waters's satire became sharper. Mink Stole starred as Peggy Gravel, a suburban housewife recovering from a breakdown. When Peggy's husband is killed, she and her maid escape to Mortville, a community of criminals presided over by the despotic Queen Carlotta (Massey). The expected disgusting gags are present—sex changes, rabies injections, roach eating, death-by-dog-food. But the anarchistic tone of Waters's earlier films has given way to more pointed commentary on class and gender roles, as Peggy is stripped of her middle-class pretensions.

Waters made his move out of the midnight movie ghetto in 1981 with POLYESTER. He toned down the visually gross elements but compensated with a gimmick worthy of one of his heroes, producer/director William Castle. Audience members were given scratch 'n' sniff "Odorama" cards, which they were cued to use by numbers flashing on the screen. Scents ranged from roses to dirty sneakers. Divine played Francine Fishpaw, a housewife beset by family problems; her philandering husband owns a porn theater, her daughter is a high school harlot and her son is the dreaded Baltimore Foot Stomper! Francine goes over the edge but is rescued by drive-in owner Tod Tomorrow, played by former teen idol Tab Hunter in a delightfully mannered performance. The film plays like a hyperbolic "woman's picture" from Hollywood's golden age, complete with a ludicrous happy ending. Once again, bourgeois attitudes are Waters's favorite target.

Throughout the 1980s Waters has published numerous cheeky articles in film and music magazines, extolling the virtues of Pia Zadora, the National Enquirer and other campy topics. HAIRSPRAY (1988), a light musical about the racial intergration of a popular Baltimore teen TV program in the early 1960s, established Waters as a bankable and moderately mainstream director. His assaults on good taste have largely dissipated, but Waters continues to be one of cinema's most potent satirists.

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Thank you Steave Yeager...

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I umm... I don't know what to say. I am in total shock. I have been a fan of films my entire life. I love all sorts of film. But I will never understand how someone could ever view this film and actually come away thinking that the movie is good or funny in ANY way. It is the worst movie I have ever seen without question. I thought I had seen bad ones, but seriously. The only funny thing about the film was how bad the acting was, which i do not believe was on purpose. This film was made entirely for shock value, and I am stunned that it got a 7.1 on this sight. I've read all of these posts, but I have yet to understand what is so good about this film. Somebody please explain.

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Personally, I cannot watch this movie without laughing myself sick. It's just so crazy and over-the-top. How could anyone take this stuff seriously?! And Divine was just a natural-born comic with a face that--not unlike Lucille Ball's--was just made for comedy. Admittedly, this movie is not for those who are "faint of heart" or easily offended. And certainly not for children. But, really, it's total satire, as much of John Waters' stuff is, and is NOT meant to be taken seriously.

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If you need it explained to you...you'll never get it. It's ok, just move on.

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If you don't like this movie, then *beep* my blood/discharge-soaked *beep* lips, man.

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