So i was sitting around thinking about the ape councils and urko. How do they select or vote for these guys. Is this something decided in ape city? are there term limits? do they just kill each other and move up ala star trek? council selects the prefects but how is the council selected?
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I always assumed that potential council members were selected by present council members. Aboro acquired gold to bribe his way into being a prefect. So it seems that politicians are voted in by other politicians.
shareTo me this is clear as muddy water: it's a pure meritocracy. Really, the ones in place are clearly the best apes for the job.
shareThey don't really go into much detail about of the ape power structure in the t.v. show.
Zaius is the head of a 6-7 member "council" but his individual powers seem somewhat limited as Urko routinely usurps Zaius' power with impunity. It seems to be a mixed species group instead the segregated all orangutan group in the movie. Although Galen's father talks about being elected to the "council" he's nowhere to found in the "Cure" episode.
Urko is the head of security which is kind of like a military gestapo style police group. Urko seems to have the right to basically kill any human for any reason with impunity.
Each area is governed by a "Prefect" who is selected by the council. In the t.v. show these spots are filled by chimpanzees and one gorilla. In the original movie these jobs were filled solely by orangutans.
Humans don't seem to have any rights whatsoever. Their legal status is a bit murky. They're not slaves although they were in the fishing village. One thing that's odd is that humans don't have any rights yet Virdon and Burke seem to not have much trouble wandering all over the countryside even though they are wanted fugitives. There is also no use/need of identification papers.
It looked to me like all the main political power seems to be centered around central city. The humans do seem to have very little rights but as stated are this kind of hybrid slave not slave type of situation. sometimes they seem to be indentured servants other times as with the fishing they seem to be slaves. Virdon and Burke seem to have walked forever yet they never seem far from central city. perhaps they are walking in a huge circle. I think it would have been interesting to have an episode dealing with ape election and the inner working of the power structure but I guess we will never get anything like that.
shareThe original film and the book were much much better at describing and satirizing ape (human) political power. Aside from the sci-fi and the adventure, the original film was really a satire and some times harsh criticism on racism, power & legal structures, war, and unabated technology. There's also some commentary on animal rights and evolution.
Lol, yeah it does seem like Virdon, Burke and Galen are walking in circles because they don't seem that far from central city.
I mean they seem to be walking forever and never seem to be getting anywhere.
They definitely should have had some sort of basic consistent legal status with the humans. It's like the writers didn't really know what they wanted and just changed their status weekly depending on the plot.
I've read some interviews from the late Mark Lenard that there was discussions that a storyline for season 2 would have been Mark Lenard playing a recurring human character as well as Urko. The idea was that the human character was going to lead a human slave revolt. So Lenard thought the dynamic of simultaneously playing the two roles would have ben interesting.
Blame the idiots at CBS for putting the show in the Friday night death slot.
shareby JohnQ1127 » I've read some interviews from the late Mark Lenard that there was discussions that a storyline for season 2 would have been Mark Lenard playing a recurring human character as well as Urko. The idea was that the human character was going to lead a human slave revolt. So Lenard thought the dynamic of simultaneously playing the two roles would have ben interesting.
Yeah, Mark Lenard's human character would have been a recurring character and the leader of a human slave revolt. I guess Virdon, Burke and Galen were going to somehow join up with this group.
You get a little bit of a feel for this idea in the "Liberator" episode when there is talk about the humans joining forces to go against the apes.
This is an interview with Mark Lenard about TPOA t.v. show and playing Urko:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt12I-jKDpY
I accessed a couple by searching Mark Lenard on YouTube.
shareby JohnQ1127 » This is an interview with Mark Lenard about TPOA t.v. show and playing Urko:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bt12I-jKDpY
The interview could've consisted of sitting in front of an audio tape recorder.
In an interview with Kim Hunter, she pointed out that the makeup was hot as hell if it was warm out, but would be extremely cold if it was cool out. Escape was filmed during the winter with a lot if outdoor scenes.
They voted. The council was very corrupt, led by Zauis. He was able to solidify his power with illegal human ballot harvesting that he read about in human history books about democrat politics in California
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