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Black Caesar? More like Big Idiot

posted 13 years ago by Calinks
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Haha, seriously, Tommy was really stupid sometimes. Who in the hell thinks it's a great idea to screw EVERYBODY over that helped you get to the top? In a business such as his where trust is so valuable, why does he continue to screw people? You really think that's never going to bite you in the ass? When you are that big of a target the last thing you want to do is screw your own people.

-Rapes his GF (What the ****!?) and expects her to be loyal.

-Nearly kills his BF (He's really lucky Joe still tried to help him in the end.)

-Screwed over the mob guy. (At least I get this one, he wanted power that was probably the only way he could get it. Was still really cold though).

-Completely embarrassed his lawyer and took his place.

I mean, if he didn't screw so many people maybe things would have gone better for him in the end. The lawyer guy never would have had a reason betray him like that. His ex wouldn't be have been willing to steal the books from him, hell she might not even have left him. Joe would be there to help him. Etc. He totally shafted himself by acting like a moron.

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[–] chas77 13 years ago

Well I think that was the point -- he fell by his stupidity. His demise was predicated on his blind ambition. He really thought that he had it all but in the end he had nothing. Screwed over by the ghetto kids he was once a part of.

[–] Tresix 12 years ago

In real life, Al Capone basically did the same thing to Johnny Torrio, the guy who brought him into the mob. Capone, in turn, was betrayed by Frank Nitti. If you look at both versions of Scarface, both of the Tonys (Carmonte in '32, Montana in '84) also fall to their violent ambitions.

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[–] Jordan_Haelend 10 years ago

Consider the case of real life mobster Anthony Spilotro. He got banned from the Vegas casinos, then set up his own burglary ring (that got busted,) had an affair with wife of "Lefty" Rosenthal, and was allegedly behind a plot to kill the latter.

He was cautioned by the Outfit, then warned, and he STILL did these things, as if he believed he was invincible. It resulted in death for him and his brother.

[–] Falconeer 10 years ago

The whole point is that Tommy wasn't an angel. He was raised by the street, and learned early on to be a bad dude. and he learned from the scumbags that screwed him growing up. It's hard to grow up like Tommy did and still be a "nice guy." and think about it; if he was a nice guy, would this movie have been nearly as entertaining. The character Tommy was very real. In reality, few people are "all good" or "all bad." I was pulling for Tommy all the way until the last frame of the movie, when he is taken down by his own people; the ghetto street kids from his old neighborhood. This is a brilliant film of the genre.

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[–] Prismark10 9 years ago

He did sow the seeds for his own destruction.

Its that man again!!

[–] Washingtonnative (2613) 6 years ago

Yep, and he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.