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Sad reflection on society that movies like this are even made.


I think whoever wrote the story was, frankly, quite insane. I was almost enjoying the movie until the scene where everything got violent (I'm deliberately being vague in order to avoid providing a spoiler.) After that point, it all fell apart and made no sense. A truly bad movie.

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I disagree. The play and movie of the play are both brilliant, and it took a lot of guts to produce and create the movie - in part because the ending makes perfect sense. None of us can avoid being shaped, at least a little, by the society and environment we live in. Enough said.

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it all fell apart and made no sense.
Well, that's the whole point, isn't it?

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The key to your comment is "whoever wrote the story." What's more sad? The movie or that you don't know anything about who wrote it?

Jules Feiffer was one of the great social commentator artists of the 60s/70s...

Clearly no big deal now, but a big deal back then (at least in NY). The play version of LM flopped, but his "Hold Me" of the mid 70s was a minor hit.

His comic strips were the main reason many read The Village Voice... Clearly an "alt artist," never in the mainstream. But Gould starred in the flopped play version of and after he hit it big the first thing he did was make this movie, showing how much he believed in it and Jules Feiffer.

Surely you don't have to know anything about Feiffer to like the movie and if you don't like it, fine. But starting a comment with professed ignorance doesn't inspire anyone to value your opinion.

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Feiffer is brilliant. He also wrote "Carnal Knowledge", which is a great psychological study, especially the Jack Nicholson character.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066892/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_15

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Yes it's quite weird, and not for everyone (including me). What humor there is is unique and bizarre, and almost scary somehow.


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It feels insane all right. That's not a bad thing. I like a society that makes movies like this.

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Feiffer is brilliant. He also wrote "Carnal Knowledge", which is a great psychological study, especially the Jack Nicholson character.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066892/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_15

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Yeah, watch Little Murders and Carnal Knowledge (both from that grim movie year of 1971) back to back some time, and behold: that Feiffer guy was one nihilistic, messed up cat.

And very popular in New York and LA intelligentsia circles.

I recall that he had a weekly "cartoon column" (in the Los Angeles Times, for one place) using bizarre stick figures that didn't matter much...it was the observations they made on American life that were the caustic point.

I don't know if American studios will allow movies to be made that are as brutal(in dialogue) about sex and violence as those two Feiffer films were -- though there are plenty of nasty little indie movies being made, I suppose. But THESE movies got big stars to appear in them, and studio backing.

And this: all sorts of articles in this year (2022) are about how horrible and violent big cities like NYC and SF have become. But as you can see from the Feiffer films, everybody thought cities were that bad back in 1971, too. Most of us simply push forward and survive....

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