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So Mr Alexander essentially, SPOILERS, both felt sorry for Alex AND attempted vengeance on him?

posted 14 days ago by TheMan18 (12520)
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With how, even after, SPOILERS, he came to realize it was him who hurt, violated and possibly was indirectly or otherwise responsible for the death of his wife, he was all like "My poor boy, another victim of modern age" - obviously showing his disdain towards the "Ludovico treatment" that he received but he was still mad and angry enough at him to play that tune gleefully and then almost drive him to suicide towards the end?

So he essentially both sympathized with Alex AND hated him, correct?

[–] david80848688 (218) 14 days ago

That's the impression I got.

[–] TheMan18 (12520) 14 days ago

Me too.

And that scene also had a surreal and darkly humorous vibe to it, I bet loads of filmmakers later like David Lynch, Peter Greenaway, Harmony Korine etc etc got some inspiration from it, as well as this film in general.

[–] TheMan18 (12520) 14 days ago

P.S. On a side note, its interesting how only once in the whole movie, and by Mr Alexander and in this scene to boot, was the word "rape" even used, throughout the whole movie, it is mostly referred to or alluded to as either "the old in out" (although it also refers to instances of consensual sexual activity in this film too, which we do see as well), "old ultraviolence" (but then, does "ultraviolence" only or even MOSTLY refer to sexual violence in this film or violence, physical, in general, that we ALSO do see) and "sex and violence" etc, and I wonder if this was in any way intentional or incidental? And yeah, its all understood of course, but possible to debate without fury OR controversy too much, like other forms of violence, perhaps?

[–] TheMan18 (12520) 13 days ago

Based on his reactions, I bet he'll probably be an avid opponent of the death penalty too, but what if Alex, someone who caused harm to him and someone close to him, was about to have it, would he be eager to defend him?