I do love it, but.....


Is it me, or could this film do with some judicious editing?!

It's a great kids film, but not really considered a great musical film. Is this because of the quality of the songs? The storyline? The acting? No, I think it's because it could easily lose 30 mins without too much damage to the story.

Watching it today, I was amazed to find that the Potts family don't even reach Vulgaria until ONE HOUR AND FORTY MINUTES IN!!

Personally I think the start is way too slow with far too much scene-setting - I would definitely lose the first rendition of Hushaby Mountain; the awfully tedious Lovely Lonely Man (giving Sally the second rendition of Hushaby Mountain to sing instead); cut down the beach scene and most of the spy footage; cut the Roses of Success. And maybe more too! Not every single emotion felt needs a song sung about it - a lot can be suggested with a look or a smile.

I know that there's a lot of great stuff there that I've just suggested could have been out, and of course we all treasure those scenes now we know about them, but I feel it would have made the film flow a lot better if they'd been lost in the original edit.

Anyone else feel it drags in places? Compare it to Mary Poppins, which is only slightly shorter but is paced a lot better in my opinion.

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I personally adore Hush-a-bye. I think that establishing it as the song that Potts sings to his kids to help them feel better, safe, and secure makes it that much more meaningful when he is trying to lift the spirits of the trapped children. It always touched me that there comes a part in the song where Truly gives him the little push to continue when he seems almost too over come by emotions to go on.

Lovely, Lonely Man comes at a time when I feel it needed a bit of a break from the action. You just went on the boat chase and the dispatching of the spies. You need a down moment where your senses aren't having to be on alert the whole movie. I do agree that some of the Spy footage could be greatly paired down a little, however as the movie stands there is very little that I would do away with. Even songs that most seem to dislike, like Posh, and Roses of Success, I think give something to the over all feel of the movie weather it moves the central story along or just gives us a little break, or change of scenery.

Anyhow, I hope what I have said makes sense but I am going to stop wasting others time. :) Happy movie watching.

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Hello Jemima742 - I appreciate your comments, and agree 100%!


"Everytime I want to have a little fun-SHE turns out!" (Baron Bomburst)

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Even as an elementary aged child seeing the film on CBS Friday Night at the Movies in the early 70s I thought the film had pacing problems.

I disagree with cutting Grandpa's two songs. Loved "The Travelling Life" and "Grow the Roses" as two of the best melodies in the show.

In my view, get rid of the entire "toot sweet" song and sub plot. I have never liked the whole candy factory scene. Cut it.

Also, "kissy face" needs to go as well.

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Actually, the TOOT SWEETS number leads into the plot development of the last five minutes of the story...where Lord Scrumptious realizes that the candy is good for dogs, thus making Caractacus rich.

Interestingly, when I saw it in the movies when I was 6 - I was sorry when it was time for it to end!

"Everytime I want to have a little fun-SHE turns out!" (Baron Bomburst)

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I see that point, but its funny, even as a kid, I never liked major slapstick scenes, like the candy factory scene. For instance I never liked thos "Ugly Dauchsaund" type Disney films either.

But, yeah it is an important plot point.

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Oh yes, I agree on the UGLY DAUCHSAUND type of movie. Even when I was small, I never got into that.

I love the TOOT SWEETS number for the song and the choreography, not particularly for the dog shtick.



"Everytime I want to have a little fun-SHE turns out!" (Baron Bomburst)

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I'm 40 years old now, and I am watching this now, just got to the point you mentioned, an hour-forty in! For some reason this started on Cinemax at 1 AM and I am TRYING to get through it to see Benny Hill and the scary parts I remember, but I absolutely cannot believe I sat though this as a child in the 1970s! Even if we did only have ten stations on tv!

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It is a long film but I've seen it numerous times over the years and have never felt there was a problem with the pacing or length. One of the great things about the film is that there's so much going on.
It would certainly be possible to cut out half an hour without doing any damage to the narrative but, in my opinion, any cuts would result in a less effective film.

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Yes, it does have an unusual structure. The 'story within a story' Vulgaria sequence is different in tone to the the first part of the film but-for me-it works really well. It's as if the makers just wanted to put together as many elements as possible, normally you'd think the result would be a disatrous mess but somehow that wasn't the case in this film-although there are plenty of people who would disagree with me about that!

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The only thing that did bother me were the children's voices. I can see why the Baroness would want to lock them up. Still, I didn't have a problem with the film being too long. The idea was to introduce the main characters and then get to the story of Vulgaria. I had no problem with the spy footage-it was like watching modern day Laurel and Hardy or Abbott and Costello. Roses of Success is good too because it shows that there really isn't such a thing as failure.

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It's probably the influence of Roald Dahl who co-wrote the screenplay. Just think of Charlie & The Chocolate Factory, there's a lot of darkness in his childrens stories. I haven't read Ian Flemings novel but I suspect the sinister/macabre elements in the film were added by Dahl.

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I haven't seen that film but it does sound likely from what you say that Ken Hughes had it on his mind when preparing and shooting the Vulgaria scenes.

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Just read through this 4 year long thread after watching CCBB on netflix (first time I've ever seen the full version).

I'd never realized how long the actual film was! I still loved, loved, loved it however.

I did find things stalled when Truly sings Lovely Lonely Man, but it may be because I've never seen that scene before. Looking back, I don't think it added anything to establishng a budding romance.....the beach scenes did that just fine.

I also agree that Grandpa's Posh and Roses song didn't add to the story, but (as another poster commented) they ARE fun to belt out in the shower! Plus they are fun interludes while Chitty is making the journey to Vulgaria.

I did find it interesting that, while everyone had varying opinions on which songs/scenes could go, almost ALL the posters agree that the spy scenes were tedious.....I never saw the point of them when I was kid either.

Finally, it was wonderful to read a commentary/opinion thread on IMDB that spans such a time line with no crude/rude/arrogant posts....just movie lovers sharing their views of a much loved classic.

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Ditto here. Anytime you have a kids' movie--a _young_ kids' movie--that runs over two hours, you'd better have some hellaciously good pacing. This one doesn't. My kids inflict it on me from time to time, but even they tend to get bored of it after 45 minutes or so. It usually takes at least two, and usually three, sittings to get through it.

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The opening credits alone take over SIX-AND-A-HALF MINUTES!!!

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The opening credits alone take over SIX-AND-A-HALF MINUTES!!!

Yes but they are not just opening credits, and do set the plot.

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Doesn't matter; they are unnecessarily extended and boring. There's a car race. We get it. We're not idiots. We don't need 6-1/2 minutes of nothing but racing scenes to set up the premise. The Great Race did the same thing better and in a shorter time.

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black and white car racing.


Sorry but I don't get you. Absolutely none of it was in black and white.

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I work on set a lot as an extra and it is very common for small things like the hat stuffing to get missed on a take. Usually it's because the continuity person is dealing with a million other details that the director thinks is more important and/or they figure no one will ever notice it. (And most don't. Though now that we have everything on DVD, and everyone can stop and start the film in a way that it was never supposed to be viewed, it's easier to see things like this that would never be noticed in a theatre screening.)

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Actually, no. I think it's best to leave the movie alone and uncut.

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Granted this movie is long, but I think it's fine the way it is. I think part of the reason I don't mind the length is because it's a reflection of the time period. This movie came out in the late 60s when movies like this were special events and studios actually made movies to entertain the public and they spared no expense. We definately do not get movies like this today and it's a shame.

But if I did have to cut something, it would be the spy storyline. The spies appear for a couple scenes and then they randomly disappear for the last part of the movie.

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Oh, it goes on way too long. But agree, like other films of the time eg Thoroughly Modern Millie and even the Bond film OHMSS. What's more a certain freshness seems to have gone out of films around that time, as if they can't quite believe in their own sprightliness anymore. Or maybe because films like Mary Poppins and Sound of Music were so epic, they thought, right, more of the same. But those two were quality all the way.

It's ages before we even see Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, and the stuff leading up to that... with Mary Poppins you had charismatic characters and stuff flying at you from all angles. Dick Van Dyke needs someone to bounce off more, and not wholly convinced by his and Scrumptious' romantic chemistry. Still, some great stuff in here if you know where to look.

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