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Where do you rate this in Newman's body of work?


Newman's passing sparked a thread on a non-movie forum to which I belong, with "what was your favorite role?" being the central theme. Not to be confused with what was his BEST performance.

After disqualifying Butch (that's a pro among amateurs), I had to go w/ the John Russell character in Hombre.

As a tribute on the night of his death, the wife and I broke out The Verdict (she had never seen it) and ate a bowl of Newman's Own Old Style Microwave Popcorn. That, unfortunately, left us with horrible conundrum of how to reconcile "old style" and "microwave" in the same sentence!

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Hombre is actually my favorite Paul Newman movie.

My DVD Collection- http://jcmansor.dvdaf.com/owned

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#1 Hombre
#2 Harper
#3 Cool Hand Luke
#4 The Hustler
#5 Hud
#6 The Color of Money

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Just finished watching Hombre and compiled the following list:
1. Cool Hand Luke
2. Hustler
3. Hud
4. Hombre
5. The Verdict
6. The Sting
7. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
*. Road to Perdition
What are you gonna do? Kill me? Every body Dies. John Garfield (Body and Soul)

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"Ask her if she'll eat dog now."

Among my favorite Paul Newman performances, Hombre makes the top five. It's subtle, but very edgy and powerful.

"Watch me run a 50-yard dash with my legs cut off!"

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1. Cool Hand Luke
2. Hombre
3. Hud
4. The Verdict
5. The Long Hot Summer (great writing in this movie)
6. Cat on a Hot Tin Roof
7. Blaze

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Besides as John Russell in "Hombre," I liked Newman as...

Hud Bannon in "Hud"

Joseph Reardon in "Mackintosh Man"

Lew Harper in "The Drowning Pool"

Harry Ross in "Twilight"

Sully Sullivan in "Nobody's Fool"

General Groves in "Fat Man and Little Boy"

and Eddie Felson in "The Color of Money."
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He will be missed.

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"Lew Harper's" old Porsche...
"We'll catch 'em. I haven't changed the plugs in that crate for 30,000 miles."
Gotta luv Newman.

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I readily agree with you and those who responded to your post. "Hombre" is a superb dramatic film and Newman's performance spectacularly good. I even put it a notch above "Hud," a film I also greatly admire.

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Paul Newman made a LOT of movies in the sixties. He came along when the Old Guard stars were dying (Gable, Cooper), retiring (Cagney, Grant) or just plain aging (Stewart, Fonda) and attained a kind of bona fide stardom that found him inundated with scripts. Newman made some great movies in the sixties, but he also willingly took on fluff like "The Prize," "What A Way to Go" and "Lady L."

"The Hustler" and "Hud" were considered the classics in his sixties period until "Cool Hand Luke." Everything else was kind of "filler," even though "Harper" was a fun detective entertainment with an all-star cast. (Newman even worked with Alfred Hitchcock during this period, but on the lackluster "Torn Curtain.")

And what of "Hombre"? The reviews of the time felt that the film somehow didn't match the heights of "The Hustler" or "Hud." Hard to say why. Maybe the sight of Newman early on in an long-haired Indian wig?(movie critics could be silly and catty.) Maybe the "too entertaining" punchiness of the story ("Hombre," though grim, is more action-packed and funny in Newman's one-liners than "Hud" or "The Hustler.")

The bottom line is: I think that "Hombre" is THE sleeper of Newman's sixties career. It has consistently developed a following over time...I know many people who have seen it and can QUOTE it. It got several nationwide network TV showings in the seventies, and its cult grew.

Today, with Newman sadly passed and his great career ended, it seems clear to me that "Hombre" is in his Top Ten of memorable movies.

Newman had to share his post-"Cool Hand Luke" hits with Redford and McQueen and, much later, Cruise. "Hombre" is shared with some truly great actors (Fredric March, Richard friggin' Boone, Martin Balsam, and Frank Silvera, plus the gritty Diane Cilento), but those people weren't fellow superstars. "Hombre" is NEWMAN's own movie all the way.

Definitely Top Ten. Maybe Top Five. Personally, I enjoy it better than "The Hustler" and any of Newman's fifties pictures.

And that's how I feel, if it doesn't matter to you. Or even if it does. (As John Russell would say, except he says it different.)

That Top Ten?

Oh, here's my shot:

1. Hud (The Ultimate Paul Newman Role)
2. The Sting (smallish role, but he runs the movie)
3. The Verdict (A career reborn; old, handsome, and a "scared rabbit")
4. Hombre (Newman has little to say, but it all counts, he's laconic and cool and funny and tragic)
5. Harper (A forties Bogart detective movie updated to the sixties; great cast)
6. Butch Cassidy (The Odd Couple on Horseback and Newman Allows Redford Stardom)
7. Slapshot (A hilariously ribald and dim character, an incredible athlete for his age)
8. Nobody's Fool (Late Newman, and lovable; you're worried you'll lose him soon in movies and in life, but he surprised us all)
9. The Towering Inferno(Kinda clunky, but not when Newman and McQueen share the screen)
10. Sometimes a Great Notion(Newman directs and stars in a tough little movie about a tough little profession: logging.)

The Hustler and Somebody Up There Likes Me are great, too. And Absence of Malice and Fort Apache the Bronx. I even like Torn Curtain (Newman and Hitchcock are an interestingly "wrong" match). He won his Oscar for "The Color of Money,"; he's great, but the movie isn't. Face it, Newman worked long enough for a Top Twenty or Thirty, but there's only so much room.




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I put it in his Top 10:

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1067496/top_10_paul_newman_movie_performances.html?cat=40

He outcools the alleged KING OF COOL, Steve McQueen in "Hombre."
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I'd say it's one of his best... behind Cool Hand Luke and just behind Hud.

I consider myself a massive fan of Newmans but there's a few of his more highly-esteemed pictures I don't like ('Butch', included!) Any dislike of mine never has anything to do with his performances, but instead relates to the films themselves.






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your ' ... left us with horrible conundrum of how to reconcile "old style" and "microwave"
in the same sentence! ' made my day thank you for that

no doubt 'bout newman's john russell is my single favorite movie character
all time and i mean absolutely positively

thank you for starting a thread that let me say so

'somebody up there like(d) him' for sure b/c the guy was sui generis
to the max

now he's for the ages sadly but celluloid makes him immortal
and in my opinion that's just the way it should be

john russell rest in peace


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When I look at the films mentioned in this thread, it takes my breath away. He sure played a lot of memorable characters in a lot of amazing films. Hombre is one of his best, along with Cool Hand Luke, The Hustler, and Nobody's Fool. Too many more to list.

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