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How did they know the monsters' names ahead of time?


I was obsessed with this show as a kid; in the 70s, Ultraman was played heavily in syndication (the first series only -- no idea why the other series never made the jump to the US, at least not until Ultraman Tiga in the 90s). Several years back, I picked up the two box sets with the full series, the one with the restored original scenes that were deleted from the exported English versions.

One thing I couldn't figure out, either then or now, was how the Science Patrol members often seemed to know the monsters' names when they should have been encountering them for the first time. When Hayata named them, it made sense, since he shared Ultraman's knowledge and presumably had encountered some of them before. But several episodes have other members recognizing the monsters, and it didn't seem like they were just assigning names to them on the spot, at least not all the time (once in awhile they did say something like "We're calling the creature 'X'," but other times it was more along the lines of "Look, there's Y"). I got the distinct impression that there was a backstory to several of the kaiju that didn't come across in the English versions.

Did this make sense in the Japanese versions? I've watched all of the versions with English subtitles that don't match the dubbed dialog, so I believe the subtitles were at least a closer approximation of the Japanese scripts, but I still feel like there is some context missing.

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Okay, that's bizarre. My imdb handle is not TheRapscallion. I have no idea why my post appears that way.

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Good question. I've always wondered this myself. Maybe August Ragone would know.

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I've often wondered why his handle shows as "TheRapscallion", too.

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My hunch is that some of the monsters had been seen before. Notice that they are never completely surprised when a monster appears, as if this has been going on for quite some time and it is a part of life.

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Never gave it a moment's thought. I was 6 or 7 when I saw "Ultraman" for the first time, on Channel 17's afternoon kid's show, and it was a lot easier to suspend disbelief back then.

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It's a Japanese tradition. Even when the first of the great monsters, Gojira, showed up for the first time they knew his name.

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Yeah, it is a tradition, but Gojira was named by the islanders who knew him as their ancient sea monster of legend. Most new monsters RECEIVED names almost instantly based on their appearance or derivation: Anguilas (Ankylosaurus), Radon (Pteranodon), Ghidora (A corruption of Hydra via Russian), Gamera ( from a Japanese word for turtle). The tradition lies in the instant assignment of a name, not on some notion that anybody knows the monster's name in advance.

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You're right, Gojira was an exception to the tradition. But the instant assignment of names is similar to what happens today when a new virus shows up. In a very short time the news media pick up on whichever version they think will be the most catchy and sinister-sounding, and suddenly that's what everybody calls it. The same would likely happen if we were beset by a giant prehistoric monster emerging from the sea to wreak havoc.

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Right. And some of the names are pretty silly, just like what would happen in the real world if monsters were named by rapid adoption of some media hype/word. Of course, in the movies it is usually implied that some respected and elderly professor has assigned the name. All in all, a Japanese thing. Remember It Came from Beneath the Sea, The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms and The Deadly Mantis? The Japanese would have called them: Hexo, Rhedosa and Manto...

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Forced monster assignment at birth

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