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I liked this more than most seem to


I've just seen this for the first time, and I think it's quite a remarkable version of the story.

The cinematography and art design is powerful. It inhabits the same world as mid-century illustrated Bibles, sure, a kind of fantasy Palestine that never quite existed, but I don't mind that. And most of the casting works extremely well, I felt — notables for me were Claude Rains, Charlton Heston and Telly Savalas, and Max von Sydow himself. Unlike many people on this thread, I liked von Sydow's Jesus — I felt it had intensity and clarity without being fraught or being lost in that overly meek forebearance that often seems laid on too thick in depictions of Jesus, and his slight accent actually worked for this role, I thought — I never found it distracting, it seemed to make him more direct and clear about the specific words he was saying, and it was just enough to give a physical representation of the idea of "there's something different about him".

I liked the script a lot, with a few caveats: I think it tells the narrative accessibly and succinctly, but it doesn't allow for much in terms of character development. None of the disciples seem to become more than cardboard cutouts — crucially, Judas seems to go from being doe-eyed to slit-eyed to being a traitor, with no stops in-between. It seems to be doing a Mel Gibson, and requiring the audience to bring enormous amounts of prior knowledge to watching the film in order for it to work. To me, the best scenes in the film were when the script fleshed out events (such as the sequence at Lazarus' tomb, or Jesus' reassurance of the women on his way to Golgotha) that the Bible tells only cursorily.

There were a few small disappointments in the casting: most of the celebrity cameos, of course, but some of the regular performances as well. One tiny one, in that Roddy McDowell, much as I love seeing him, is just too darned nice to be convincing to me as a thick-skinned tax-collector who's turned his back on allegiance to his own people; and while I generally like David McCallum as an actor, I really got nothing from his Judas (though that could have been more the fault of the script; he didn't get a lot of time to develop his opposition to Jesus, and the film never really suggested a reason for his betraying him, other than the fact that he was ... well, a bit grumpy).

Most of the production was spectacular, but a couple of things didn't work well for me technically: Stevens' having to make do with sound stages and dioramas for the last act of the film was a bit of a clunky transition, though I understand that wasn't by choice; I didn't care for the coloured filter during the entire Resurrection sequence (it was probably cleverly evocative right enough, but I personally find such things distracting and alienating from a film); and I didn't care for the use of potted well-known classical music, though most viewers would obligingly accept this kind of musical semaphor, I suspect, inserting their own emotional overlay onto the scene based on what they understand that music to mean, rather than deriving a direct emotional response from an original score.

Last stray thoughts: For me, the raising of Lazarus was the highlight scene of the film, and I really loved Stevens' idea of the ripple effect that ran down the hillside, as people were shocked to realise that they had witnessed something genuinely supernatural. A beautiful bit of film-making, I thought. And lastly, I couldn't quite decide whether making Donald Pleasance's Satan the agent provocateur for so many moments — agitating the crowd against both Jesus and John the Baptist on numerous occasions, emboldening the Sanhedrin, calling for the crucifixion, causing Peter to deny Jesus — was a neat bit of cinematic shorthand, or a cop-out. Mel Gibson seems to have copied the idea, so he must have liked it as an explanation, but I think it's too pat and is essentially buck-passing.

The positives far outweigh any reservations, though, and overall I thoroughly enjoyed this.



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Having been somewhat at loggerheads on the "King of Kings" board, I was pleased to find your post here. Your points are well taken, imo, and I'm in agreement with your view of this picture (we may be the only two!). In particular, I concur regarding Steven's location selection. Were I directing (lol), I probably would not have made the same decision, but I think it a creative and courageous idea, nevertheless. So ... good for him! (kinda like John Ford's use of Monument Valley in the south Texas set "The Searchers") Additionally, I agree I would have preferred Newman's own (where have I heard that before?) music in lieu of the very well known (perhaps too well known) classical piece used during the Lazarus episode.

Anyway, nice post! Thanks.

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Newman DID get some of his original score into that scene. It's sandwiched between Van Heflin's leaving Lazarus' gate proclaiming "Did you see it?" and a closeup of McCallum, just before Jerusalem's city walls are shown and the three characters, Heflin, Sal Mineo, and Ed Wynn begin to run toward the city gates.

Newman's resurrection theme is a suped-up version of a theme he repeats more quietly through the rest of his score. It is entitled, "The Great Journey" and it appears in a track of its own in the original vinyl soundtrack album.

Concerning "potted classical music", Newman was not at fault, therefore, for Stevens' insistence on Handel's Hallelujah Chorus for Lazarus' and Jesus' resurrections. As I said, even under this constraint, Newman got to insert a bit of his original Hallelujah into the Lazarus scene.

Newman may be at fault for inserting Verdi's Requiem for a few minutes in the "road to Calvary" scene, but perhaps he was directed to do so. The only other borrowed-sounding music is from the first bars of the main theme, which (probably deliberately) echo Barber's Adagio for Strings.

In all other places, Newman's scoring was mostly original - although he had help in a few scenes from Fred Steiner and others.

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I LOVE this movie and it is so widely hated I have to wonder if there is something wrong with me for liking it.

I do wish it moved more quickly.

other than that, love it.

even like Wayne's cameo.

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For me, the raising of Lazarus was the highlight scene of the film, ... A beautiful bit of film-making, I thought.


Very much disagree. An ordinary piece of film-making IMO with the audience squinting into the distance to see what's actually happening. The scene needed at least a couple of close-up shots of Jesus and Lazarus to involve us in the marvel of the occasion. Instead we are well and truly relegated to the back stalls.

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Very much disagree. An ordinary piece of film-making IMO with the audience squinting into the distance to see what's actually happening. The scene needed at least a couple of close-up shots of Jesus and Lazarus to involve us in the marvel of the occasion. Instead we are well and truly relegated to the back stalls.
I think that was the point. It added to the mystery of the miracle.

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It added to the mystery of the miracle.

Mystery is in the eye of the beholder perhaps? Well not for me. IMO a very poorly directed scene. Here's Lazarus supposedly risen from the dead; come back to interrelate with all his buddies after his sisters interceded with Jesus. And all we see is a dot and a ray of light in the distance.

I think if Stevens planned to do it like that, he may as well have just left it out altogether.

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An ordinary piece of film-making IMO with the audience squinting into the distance to see what's actually happening. The scene needed at least a couple of close-up shots of Jesus and Lazarus to involve us in the marvel of the occasion. Instead we are well and truly relegated to the back stalls.
Exactly. We aren't supposed to be "involved", like a sharing participant; the audience is meant to be a witness, confronted with something "other", alien, outside his ken.

It is one of the ennervating aspects of so much modern filmmaking - and modern film watching - that everything has to be up close and personal; there no longer seems to be any place at all for more detatched, distanced observation.



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Exactly. We aren't supposed to be "involved", like a sharing participant; the audience is meant to be a witness, confronted with something "other", alien, outside his ken.

It is one of the ennervating aspects of so much modern filmmaking - and modern film watching - that everything has to be up close and person; there no longer seems to be any place at all for more detatched, distanced observation.

Enervating or not,I go to the cinema to be involved, not to be some distant "witness" to events happening onscreen, like a spectator in a giant football stadium.

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Austendw,

Right on, sir!

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An ordinary piece of film-making IMO with the audience squinting into the distance to see what's actually happening. The scene needed at least a couple of close-up shots of Jesus and Lazarus to involve us in the marvel of the occasion. Instead we are well and truly relegated to the back stalls.

I take your point, though I didn't at all feel distanced from it, or relegated to the back stalls. As I indicated, one thing I myself liked about it was the sense of how the excitement and wonder spread, which we could see clearly laid out before us. I don't believe that could have been achieved with close-ups and physical proximity.

I agree with the posts that say it gave a sense of wonder and otherness through distance. I don't doubt that it was intentional that it be framed as something we can only observe from beyond our grasp, and not be the active participants that close framing would imply.



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Newman may be at fault for inserting Verdi's Requiem for a few minutes in the "road to Calvary" scene, but perhaps he was directed to do so.
Newman originally scored the entire "Via Dolorosa" sequence (a full eleven minutes of it, which can be heard on the Varese CD) and only inserted the passage from the Verdi Requiem at Stevens' insistence.


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I liked this film, too for the reasons you mentioned, and several more. Max von Sydow was not handsome in this role as too many other casting directors make Jesus. He has a 'good', not a handsome face; he is not the cookie cutter Jesus of most films made of the life of Christ. I don't honestly think Jesus was a heart throb as to appearance.
My mother had the book. I had read it, and was excited to see the movie, and lastly parts of the film, particularly the Sea of Galilee scenes were shot at Pyramid Lake in Northern Nevada. I with a friend went out and we were able to see some of the sets. That was exciting, and it was nice to be able to recognize our lake in the finished film.

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I'm not big on religion based films, but I'm not opposed to checking them out once in a while. I do enjoy CLASH OF THE TITANS and Marvel's THOR. ;)

This one might be one of my personal favorite Jesus films, though.


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I have nothing to add to your excellent post except to note that for people of a certain age, this will always be the quintessential Life of Christ movie. I love it and feel protective of it.

Even having watched Max von Sydow grow old over the decades, I still see him onscreen and ask: "Jesus?"

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I saw this movie as a child and never forgot it. Which is far different from most movies.

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It's a little underwhelming and should have been more interesting. It's one of the weaker Jesus films I have seen. I would rate it a 6/10.

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