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Males voted this 8.3, females only 5.4


This is quite a discrepancy. Why is this?


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The only answer I can give to this post might be seen by some as incredibly sexist. Therefore, I will just say this: I am incredibly sexist.


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Perhaps if we just accept that the biological difference between men and women affects every aspect of their life, then this discrepancy would make sense.
This doesn't mean that I degrade women's logic, all I'm saying is that they see things differently.they have a different eye for beauty and/or what is important and should be issued.
This film was made by men, from their point of view, so to expect women to sympathize with it would be a little bit unrealistic.perhaps if a film was made by women filmmakers, about the same subject matter, from their honest perspective it would've emphasized on totally different (yet equally, if not more, humane and important) issues.

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It comes from social conditioning. Another user on this thread, a woman, noted how in our culture women are discouraged from films like this, these kinds of films are marketed to men, while women are supposed to like "girly" films, "chick flicks". There's a heavy pressure in society for women to think and act in a certain way and they're not supposed to like movies like this. Women are pushed out of the important areas of life for the most part, and movies about history and important things in general are mainly marketed to men. It's men who are supposed to do the thinking. Movies with guns and bombs are also marketed to men, and this film has plenty of that. It's nothing about some inherent nature in men or women, but about social pressure created in part by heavy marketing. It's sad really.

But yeah there's no reason other than that why women shouldn't enjoy films like this just as much as men. These comments about the "nature" of women vs men, about how we're all just born to be a certain way based on our gender, reinforce these sexist stereotypes. Women are more "nurturing" and "gentler" just because they're women? Seriously? Did you people WATCH this movie? I have the movie on right now and it's on the scene where three women deliver bombs to blow up public places. Women were very active in the Algerian revolution, and in other armed rebellions in such places as Vietnam and China. Today women are highly active in armed rebellions like in India, where a heavy Maoist guerrilla war is taking place and women comprise about 50% of its fighters. And in the West, we have women who are entrenched in our imperialist system, like Margaret Thatcher in Britain who attacked the labor movement, brutalized N. Ireland and went to war with Argentina over the Malvinas. She's known by the nickname of "Thatcher the milk-snatcher" for taking away school milk for poor kids as part of her neoliberal assault on social welfare. Yeah, taking milk from children just screams "nurturing", doesn't it? Or in the US we have Hillary Clinton who spearheaded the imperialist war on Libya as Secretary of State. Someone want to explain how Thatcher and Clinton fit into this stereotyped picture of women as intrinsic softies?

All humans, men and women, each have their own personalities and their biology doesn't dictate their nature. People's personalities are more influenced by their environment than anything else. It's not nature but nurture. It comes down to social conditioning, and it's a problem we have to fight against, not perpetuate like a lot of the people on this thread are doing. This conditioning serves to keep women by and large pushed out of the important areas of life. It's part of why politics is still such a sausage-fest.

Seriously, the comments on this thread really sicken me and just go to show how deeply-entrenched sexism still is in the West, even as Westerners love to arrogantly look down on the rest of the world from a high horse and point to their oppression of women. This is a global problem, and here in the West we still have a long, long, long way to go.

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I recently finished reading...

ON LEAVE by Daniel Anselme

"Yes I was an English PROF."

"Aren't you still???"

"I'm a SOLDIER."

"That's not a job!!! Colette responded vigorously.

Colette came back in & gave him a bottle of MARTINI(shaken??? or sirred???) to uncork.

The natural way she'd handed him the bottle & the automatic, almost intimate way she'd spoken to him made him want to give her a hug.

"Oh, with Luke, that's no surprise!!!" Colette said with a giggle.


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Another example of this: http://www.imdb.com/list/ls079321335/

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One thing I noticed about this film, unlike many of this genre, there was no "love story" as a secondary plot.

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