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Monday Sept 26 1966

Season 3's 'Pass the Vegetables, Please' first aired. I believe I'll watch it tonight after supper 👍

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Monday Dec 5 1966

'And Then There Were None' -- another great one, with a memorable dream sequence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79LSG9ev8xg

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Manages to combine "Ten Little Indians," "The Trials of Oscar Wilde," "Mary Poppins," "My Fair Lady" and "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" all into one episode. What more could you ask for?

Favorite Lines:
"Where is the filthy killer?" "The filthy killer is right here, your honor!"
"Take that, you swine!" "I say - I'm glad he's fair."
"Lies! Lies! Lies! I have never seen that woman before!" "Then you've missed plenty, buster!"


[ I feel like there's a missing scene in this. I don't know if it was ever there, or if it was cut. When Gilligan is realizing that he was with the "victims" just before they disappeared, he says something like, "That's right. I wasn't alone with Mrs. Howell... except when I was with her and she picked out the dress... I was alone with her then!"

We see Gilligan with Mary Ann and Ginger before they go missing, but this fairly specific incident with Mrs. Howell isn't in the episode.]

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I recall you posting a while back that certain episodes had little snippets from scenes missing (something from the dream sequence in The Sound of Quacking, Ginger noticing the reed moving in the water and then seeing it again in Gilligan's Mother in Law, etc...)

One would think that every episode in the series would be uncut on dvd, but clearly that's not the case. No excuse really, unless these bits were somehow lost at some point during syndication.

The prints used for the dvds were in immaculate shape, though. Only two look rough and drab -- Gilligan vs Gilligan and The Pigeon. It's evident as soon as the opening theme begins for both eps. (coincidentally, the only Season 3 ones that show Professor on the left and Mary Ann on the right at the end of the theme).

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From what I've read, The Brady Bunch DVD's "restored" those episodes to their original length, but they had to use 16mm footage to fill in the gaps, and you can tell the difference.

If true, that suggests that they may have cut the original negatives at some point and "misplaced" the excised footage. I hope that didn't also happen to Gilligan's Island.

In the late 70's, there seems to have been a change from distributing re-runs on 16mm film to distributing them on 1" video tape. The 1" video tape copies were made from 35mm source material and so looked a lot better than the old 16mm copies.

But this may have meant that smalltime, local TV stations could no longer cut the episodes (cutting 16mm is simply cutting it - but cutting 1" tape may not have been a technical option for local TV stations at the time). I think this is why series like Star Trek suddenly looked better around 1980, but they were also shortened in a uniform fashion by the distributor. This was done with a lot of care on a show like Star Trek and is difficult to detect unless you know the show quite well. I suspect that this is what happened to Gilligan's Island, too.

You could argue that some of the cuts are an improvement. For instance, I'm certain that, originally, the robot describes the requirements for each of the three ship types as Mr. Howell reluctantly lowers his request from an aircraft carrier, to a destroyer, to a mine sweeper. In the DVD version, the robot only recites the requirements for an aircraft carrier. In principle, the joke is following a comedy "rule of threes" - but, in practice, I do remember that it seemed to go on forever.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_three_(writing)

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Interesting stuff. I wonder how many other people have bought a complete series on dvd and aren't aware that little things are missing...

One thing about those two eps that look rough compared to the rest -- the Season 2 opening ends with Professor on the left and Mary Ann on the right; for Season 3 they switched it (with MA being higher left and P lower right).

So, Gilligan vs Gilligan and The Pigeon have the Season 2 opening for some reason. The Season 2 and 3 openings also have a different shot of the Minnow while the cast is shown.

Speaking of Season 3, I'm sure you're aware that a slightly different opening theme was recorded for it. I even noticed it as a kid, so when I got the dvds I couldn't understand why the S2 and S3 themes sounded identical. For some reason, the original S3 theme has been replaced by the S2 theme on the dvds.

I managed to find that rare S3 opening, so I included it on one of the GI videos I uploaded recently. You'll see the teaser and theme for 'And Then There Were None' (from the dvd), then an old recording of a S3 opening followed by comparisons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8cKuWlMQ74


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Very interesting! I'm not sure if I ever noticed the difference between season 2 & 3 before - or it's been so long I've forgotten it. It sounds like the vocal track is the same, but they slightly altered and re-orchestrated the music. One additional place you can hear the difference is in the little musical effect following "the movie star" lyric. It's similar, but I think it's a different instrument.

I wonder why they did this. Shows did revamp their theme songs fairly frequently, but usually it is quite noticeable. "The Man From UNCLE's" seasons 2-4 are all very distinct variations on the classic theme (season 1 is very different but "suggests" the later themes). Maybe the idea was to get the audience to feel that the show was "new" each season.

Obviously, one reason they re-recorded the Gilligan theme between season 1 and 2 was to eliminate the "and the rest" part. I also just read that the reason the switched from "The Wellingtons" to the "Eligibles" for the vocal track was because "The Wellingtons" were supposedly committed to a Las Vegas show.

I wonder if the reason the DVD's use the Season 2 theme for Season 3 theme is to avoid paying an additional fee for the two separate performances under the newer music licensing rules. Maybe there's some special rule for theme songs.

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I think you're right about the licensing. Even though the themes are only slightly different, there would likely be two residuals to pay out.

The person who originally uploaded the "rare, original" S3 theme described it as being stronger and more "militant", which I think nails it. He or she also noticed that, in addition to what you pointed out after "the movie star", the flute is more pronounced after "with Gilligan" and "the skipper, too". Also noted is that the storm effects are louder and last slightly longer.

What I first noticed was the opening six notes before the lyrics begin. I used to record the show when I was 10 or 11 (with an audiocassette recorder lol), and vividly remember it being much different than the S2 opening six notes; again, stronger. When I first watched the dvds, I thought that maybe I imagined the two themes were slightly different.

I also was disappointed initially, because I thought that every S3 ep had a teaser before the theme, but that didn't happen until episode 11 -- 'The Invasion'.

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I just listened to them back to back and I think the first six notes are the same but that the difference is the second season uses a high wind instrument, like a piccolo, in the foreground of those six notes, and the other instruments sound softer. The high register also gives it a more "nautical" feel, making it sound more like a sea shanty. The "piccolo" might also be a musical reference to a bosun's whistle. Those six notes always sound to me like a "call to attention" - and they'd probably make a good ring tone. :)

One other thing I noticed is that there seems to be some reverb added to the vocals in season 3. It might just be an artifact of the recording, however.

Maybe it's just because I have not heard it in a long time, but the season 3 version sounds kind of "alien" to me. I might almost have guessed it was from one of the cartoon versions if I didn't know better.







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I can understand it not sounding right after hearing the S2 version for so long. Oh, and did you notice that last wallop of a drum beat? Definitely not there at the end of the S2 version !

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Wow! Yes, that final drum hit is quite distinctive. Thanks for putting up the video(s) by the way!

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Monday Dec 12 1966

'All About Eva'

I know this episode isn't a fan favorite, but I really like how TL played Eva. Not just her look, obviously, but how she sounded too. More like her actual voice, based on interviews I've seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spZ9ZmItmEw

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Tina's performance in this episode is really quite good. Eva reads as a totally different character from Ginger, which is often not the case when one person plays two roles. There's considerably more to it than, say, Bob Denver putting on a Russian accent in "Gilligan Vs. Gilligan."

The problem with the episode is that it's just not that funny. Eva's story may be tragic, but she's not sympathetic; there's nothing there to like. Those aren't the ingredients for a good comedy. Even Jonathan Kincaid had a dark sense of humor.

In trying to remember the funny lines from the show, all I could come up with were: "Dear soakers? Dear suckers!" and "I'll tell them you're all tied up!" (which seemed more clever when I was 10).

It's actually anti-funny in places. Something about Ginger's crying is off putting in other episodes, even when she's just faking it ("V is for Vitamins"). Here, Eva's crying is like fingernails on a chalkboard.

One little oddity in the episode is the moment when Tina's double (with her back turned) speaks as Ginger just before being knocked out. For some reason they used the double's voice instead of dubbing in Tina.

Watching this, it occurred to me that the Castaways themselves should disable any boat that shows up in the lagoon. At least that way, visitors wouldn't be free to leave them high and dry even if they also disabled the boat.

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You're right, the ep isn't one of the funnier ones. I do, however, really enjoy the scene where Eva is coming on to Gilligan. It escalates pretty nicely to the grapes going everywhere 

Plus, that unsatisfying ending...no radio report that she was caught impersonating Ginger Grant, nothing. Just a bummer conclusion.

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Yeah, that's true - the scene with the grapes is good. I don't think I want to consider the subtext of those grapes, though... Odd that Gilligan let himself get trapped like that. Usually, he knocks himself out while turning to flee. :)

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Hello ben and EiRaisuli,
In regard to changing Russell's and Dawn's photos and new photo of boat beached itself on the beach have started in last part of season 2 on DVD. And plus Gilligan in last half of that 2nd season doesn't mind being kissed by Ginger, but in Mr. and Mrs. ??? he objects to kissing Mary Ann. I think that ep may be shot earlier because Tina is wearing tight white beaded gown. The producers may want her at thinnest shape before she packing on pounds in Ghost a Go-Go. She is wearing that gown again in Meet The Meteor, so I also think it was shot earlier too.

So All About Eva is not that funny to you??

I find it funny:

Eva as Ginger bumping into Professor: Excuse me, Mary Ann.
That way Professor looks bewildered at camera cracks me up.

Eva as Ginger falls on her behind makes me laugh.

Gilligan to Eva as Ginger: Excuse me, I never have had broken a girl before.
That remark has me rolling on the floor.

Eva as Ginger shaking her body when her broken glasses slide down prompting Skipper 's hands fly up to his hat when he got horny and to yell, Ginger!! Hold a second!! I will join you!

Eva runs to change clothes at super speed behind the screen to change into glamorous Ginger or mousy Eva really doing good spoof of mousy Clark Kent changing clothes into glamorous Superman in phone booth. I also love every time Eva as Ginger comes out, she would straight up her backbone and shakes her herself before running out the hut.

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Hey, welcome back hsd  it's been a while!

Yes, the last episode of Season 2 (Meet the Meteor) has the different shot of the Minnow, and Dawn Wells on the upper left. It stayed that way for S3, except in those two eps I mentioned that don't look that great (G v G, and The Pigeon).

As for AAE, it has some amusing bits, but for me it's somewhat of a lackluster episode. Great that you like it, though 

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Ha! On Sinatra's 51st birthday..and Tina Louise as Eva acted a LOT like Sinatra in his stage struck wanna-be star in her new pseudo-"Ginger" mode..

That was one of more sad episodes. A swan song for veteran Joanna Lee, then still doing at least part time comedies but doing more serious fare in the esarly 70s (even when the "fluff" pre-70s style fare that she'd contributed was sitll being shown, like Brady--which had some stories by her, and Partridge family, which did not. )

And it was the final "lookalike" episode, and the only one besides the same seasons
The Producer special guest starring Phil Silvers to give an open special guest credit, and it's got that neat, rare running music cue used when Silver's memorable Harold Hecuba,goes in an out of the stage curtain to do all roles in Hamlet. Just like how Tina Louise as Eva Grubb kept changing identities coming and going-Eva/Ginger-Ginger/Eva. The same ":ding" then fast tropical cue is played. The first one "The Producer" credits Mort Stevens with music but the even more regular composer for the color Gilligan episodes, Gerald Fried, took credit for it for "All About Eva".In fact, the same group of cues written for the show were rotated regardless of which of the two guys (who alternated credits) got specifically credited ("The Producer" was the only time that designated CBS main music supervisor Mr.Stevens was explicty listed as the music composer). (Of course the Producer also had its own custom Bizet "Hamlet" adapations, but that's another epiusode>) Previous lookalike episodes were Brad Radnitz's Season 2 "Will the Real Mr.Howell Please Stand Up?" episode and Miss Lee's (see above) own Season 3 "Gilligan vs Gilligan".

"And that's SHOWBIZ--kid."-Roxie Hart.
PROFILE PIC:Courtney Thorne-Smith.
MAGIC=Sarah Silverman.

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Monday Dec 19 1966

A new episode didn't air. That happened once in S1 (The Sound of Quacking aired on Nov 7/64, followed by Goodbye Island on the 21st), and once in S2 (The Sweepstakes aired on Oct 14/65, then Quick Before it Sinks on the 28th).

It happened a second time in S3...stay tuned

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I can't wait to find out whether or not if they ever get rescued!
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Yes, this was the day when they pre-empted "Gilligan's Island" and "Run Buddy Run" with an hour long presentation of "Jack and the Beanstalk" as performed by the Prince Street Players. From what I've read, the guy playing the giant was shorter than the guy playing Jack.

I suspect that my brother and I bailed on this offering pretty quickly. Flipping through the emergency procedures manual, we found that we could choose to watch either the TV series "Iron Horse" on ABC (episode "A Dozen Ways to Kill a Man"), or "The Monkees" followed by "I Dream if Jeannie" on NBC (episodes "Too Many Girls" and "Jeannie Breaks the Bank"). Guess which we chose.

It seems kind of foolish for CBS to have given their viewers a chance to sample the new hit "The Monkees" (not that we hadn't already) in exchange for the dubious Nielsen ratings of "Jack and the Beanstalk," but someone there clearly felt that The Prince Street Players were just the thing to bring life to the cultural wasteland that was television.

The PSP had already done "Pinocchio," and they would later perform "The Emperor's New Clothes" and "Alladin."

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I very well remember the Prince Street Players.

PROFILE PIC:Courtney Thorne-Smith.

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Monday Dec 26 1966

'Gilligan Goes Gung Ho'

For me, one of Season 3's funniest scenes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSOPFEHhhcE

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The Professor is really funny in this. Once again he's out of character playing the part of a psycho prisoner. "All right, Big Boy! But first you've got to beat the 'King of the Hill,' and that's me!"

Even funnier is him imploring, "He saw it! He saw it!" as the Skipper is strangling him.

I mentioned this in the trivia game a long time ago, but Jim Backus' line of "Yadda, yadda Warden!" is a reference to an "adult" prison picture parody done by Lenny Bruce. Backus was living dangerously by ad-libbing that line, but he may have figured that anyone who complained would also be exposing themselves as having listened to the record.


This is one of a handful of episodes in which Bob Denver's voice seems to be effected by "congestion" or something. It's not consistent, but at times it definitely sounds like he's trying to sound normal while being "stuffed up." This is also very noticeable in "V is for Vitamins" during the scene in which he explains to Ginger and Mary Ann "...the bigger you are, the faster you go."

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I taped this episode way back in the 70s and would listen to this scene over and over, just to hear the professor talking like that. Watching it again, his hunched posture and Skipper's hand movements while they're circling each other... priceless.

Never noticed Gilligan's congestion, though. I'll check it out 

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Monday Jan 2 1967

'Take a Dare' -- not one of my favorites. I find it more annoying than funny for some reason. Couldn't even find a decent clip from it...

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There is something odd about this episode. Even in the scenes without George Barkley, a lot of the jokes don't seem to "land" properly. Both the writer and the director had done early, better episodes, so it's hard to say what went wrong.

Although some say "Gilligan's Island" was the original "Survivor," this episode actually seems to predict the later "reality show" specifically with its "Take A Dare" program. I wonder if there was some earlier, real "Take a Dare"-like program that this episode was referencing. It seems odd to think of such a show on radio.

Strother Martin is pretty sleazy in this, but I always found him an enjoyable actor. He was great in "True Grit" and "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" (in which John Wayne kicks him in the face while hardly averting his gaze from Lee Marvin). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI_BKLpSFQg


One oddity in the show is they way they freeze frame at the end of Barkley's rendezvous with Ginger. I'm sure it was just to extend the scene so they could dissolve to the next one. You see this happen on other shows as well. It's just a mistake.

Also, did the Castaway's radio always have a ear plug? It's certainly prominent in this episode - even becoming the source of a sight gag.

Barkley disables his radio by removing the largest, most oddly placed "fuse" in the history of radios. The Professor then somehow finds that a part is missing inside the radio. If Barkley had just removed a fuse, the Professor could easily have "fixed" the radio by "jumping" the fuse with short piece of wire.

It is pretty hard to believe that the Castaways couldn't convince Barkley that they were the missing passengers and crew of the Minnow. I suppose the explanation is that he had never heard of them, particularly Mr. Howell, who could have made him a very rich man for rescuing them.

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Well said, El. For me, TaD is like Man With a Net. Both episodes have only a few chuckles, and I find both visitors aggravating instead of funny or interesting.

I just watched that bit you mentioned with the freeze frame...I didn't remember it, and have to say it was strange to see it pause on Barkley's face like that. You'd think they could have just faded into the other scene as he continued to look dumbfounded as Ginger walked away...weird.

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I think the most likely explanation is that the director called "cut" too early on that shot - forgetting that it needed to transition to the next scene.

It's kind of a rule of thumb that you allow some "bleed" at the beginning and end of a scene to allow the editors to make whatever kind of transition they need to.

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Monday Jan 9 1967

'Court-Martial'

Features Gilligan and Skipper considering suicide, the recreation of the 'sinking' of the Minnow, and the great Lord Admiral Gilligan dream sequence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0WjCO5JxVQ

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I always like the episodes in which the Professor creates some elaborate device, such as the "Minnow Simulator" here. It's clear that the "control lines" are not moving the platform, so I wondered if there were people under the deck. I think my question is answered in the final scene when the platform rights itself after Gilligan is thrown from the deck. You can hear some kind of hydraulic piston blowing off air as the Skipper walks over to him.

The shot of the Skipper and Gilligan walking away with knapsacks over their shoulders always choked me up as a kid. It seems like a very deliberate homage to Laurel & Hardy. It also uses the tear-jerking, "Elizabethan" music that open "Where There's a Will."

The funniest moment for me is when Lord Admiral Gilligan pauses to tickle Ginger's chin while he's fighting the three pirates.

I'm pretty sure that the several times that Lord Admiral Gilligan puts a finger to the side of his nose (as a sort of salute) is an homage to Douglas Fairbanks, Sr., but I haven't been able to find a photo to confirm it. You can see how Fairbank's "The Black Pirate" (1926) inspired this Gilligan dream sequence here:
http://blog.ctnews.com/culturecache/files/2015/07/st072415sttodo.jpg

In addition to the obviously fake "vine" that both Gilligan and the Skipper try to use to hang themselves, some of the other foliage looks more fake in this episode for some reason.

Funniest Line:
Announcer: "Fortunately, there are few captains of charter vessels who are as completely incompetent as..."

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Speaking of that Minnow Simulator, one of my favorite bits of music from the series is used before the reveal of it. It's also in The Kidnapper, when Gilligan is used as bait to catch Wiley (it's at 4:08 of this video):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUuJNsIfu2Q

Gilligan and Skipper leaving reminds me of Allergy Time, when Gilligan is seen walking alone toward the jungle after everyone kicks him out of their huts. A sad, slow version of a usually upbeat music cue is playing as it leads up to the fade out.

Funniest parts for me are when Skipper keeps falling for Gilligan's "Goodbye, Skipper" even though they're leaving together (especially the first time, when S actually leaves the hut and has to come back...)

As for that nose thing, I always assumed it was an homage to Errol Flynn. Perhaps it's the way Gilligan went "Ha HAA...!" I seem to recall Flynn doing that in The Sea Hawk.

Great pic, btw. Love that one unconscious guy 

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I like those cues,too...I already subscribed to the uploader, see my comments there. ANd yes, right on about Allergy Time and Court Martial (the other one mentioned), both have Gilligan leaving, only with the Skipper,too:) in Court Martial Martial. The fake Minnow is excellently conceived..

PROFILE PIC:Courtney Thorne-Smith.

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Gilligan's Island=the home of tropical Rube Goldberg devices.

Watching the 1966 Season 2 allergy one, "Allergy Time"!

The Professor to The Skipper:"Why, Skipper: You're allergic to GILLIGAN"!

[the 2000s WarnerHome DVD Gilligan's collection. I also have the 1st and 3rd too.]

PROFILE PIC:Courtney Thorne-Smith.

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Mon Jan 16 1967

'The Hunter'

An episode that is funny, ghoulish, and at times deadly serious...as in this scene

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPyNaLUoTyo

It's in my top 5 GI episodes -- some dark moments for sure, but a lot of big laughs, too.

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"The Hunter" does have some funny lines:

Mrs. Howell: "Why, for something important, I can get up as early as anyone else!"

Kincaid: (to Mary Ann): "Shooting you would be like shooting the Easter Bunny!"

Kincaid: "Skipper, you're too fat!"

Mr. Howell referring to Ramu as "You're friend with the bad headache" (because his turban looks like a bandage, I assume).

This would have been a good time for the Castaways to haul out some of those weapons that they've acquired during their stay. They had several side arms, some rifles and even a couple of machine guns (at least one from the Japanese sailor). Doesn't really matter if they work or have bullets. What's Kincaid going to do when confronted with seven armed castaways?

Apparently, Rory Calhoun was possessed of great animal magnetism. He was a notorious Lothario in Hollywood and Dawn and Tina apparently swooned over him during this episode.

Frankly, I don't see it. Cary Grant, yes... but Rory Calhoun? On the other hand, I guess he was the apotheosis of the "bad boy."

He was oddly immortalized in this Simpson's clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PaxLSxQblM




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I guess some women preferred the sophistication and charm of Cary Grant while others liked the rough and dangerous types like Robert Mitchum and RC.

And Rory was known for his standing and walking, after all 

By the way, in that clip that I linked, the laugh you hear at the very end is from the scene right after, when Kincaid reacts to Gilligan's question "Isn't that a laugh?"

I thought adding it as he walked away would be a nice touch...

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That one, and The Producer, were probably my two favorite episodes. Funny that they were done back to back!




I remember when I drove a Moon-Crane. Damn near rolled the thing into the Sea of Tranquility.

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