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Petticoat Junction Without Kate and Floyd


This week on ME TV was the beginning of Kate's character leaving the show. Bea Benaderet's health was on the decline, and even though she will appear in a few more episodes, the show was transitioning without her.

I still could not get over that she (a sub) came to see Betty Jo at the hospital, and then never returned to spend time with the baby. Grandma Kate, just disappeared......and so did Floyd, to be replayed by Wendall. I think Floyd showed up briefly, but I don't think he was on when the show ended it's run.

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Actually, Floyd did show up in one of the series final episodes. I actually liked Byron Foulger as Wendall. Floyd was my favorite of the Cannonball engineers, but Wendall was a very endearing character as well.

As for the whole debacle with Kate, it was handled poorly. To me, it seemed that production on the show must've shut down shortly after season six started filming. With Bea's health rapidly declining, they must've been rushed to make last minute decisions. I wish it had been handled differently, but being a light comedy, they didn't know how to properly handle it. So sad that the lead star of the show didn't get the proper farewell she deserved.

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Great viewpoint on this topic. This morning, MeTV aired the season 5 finale, "Kate's Homecoming." This episode, for all intents and purposes, served as the only episode- or, perhaps, the episode giving the MOST appreciation and tribute to Bea Benaderet. I watched it with special focus and Benaderet visibly teared up through the musical tributes by the band and Sam's quartet in the Pixley sequence. And, of course, it was both tragic and frustrating that Ms. Benaderet would only be in 3 more complete episodes (and in the 3rd one, only in one scene) before passing on and forcing TPTB to 'improvise' the 4th episode where Kate becomes a grandmother- and isn't actually on camera at all. Suffice it to say, I truly missed the lady.

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Maybe this is why Betty Jo's and Steve's baby was named Kathy Jo, after Kate.

The Valley Has a Baby
26min | Comedy | Episode aired 26 October 1968

Bea died on October 13, 1968

They used her voice in that episode, while she had a stand in on the show. She died 2 weeks before the baby was born on the show.

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I'm watching that episode right now...

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What they did do in that episode was show a few flashbacks of Kate. I guess that was her memorial for the show.

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When I was a kid and watched the show, I divided it into three eras: "Kate is there", "Kate is not there, but is still in the opening credits and people talk about how she will return", "Kate is not in the opening credits and no one talks about her any more".

I always thought it was sad because she never really did return permanently.

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I just found it strange that she "left Hooterville" while Betty Jo was still in the hospital and the baby wasn't even named yet.

Though they did say they were tossing Kathy Jo or Katie Jo around for names. You would think a grandmother would stay long enough for the naming of the baby. They said Kate was out of town.

The writers really did not know how to handle this at all.

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No they didn't. Apparently everyone took Bea's death really hard

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Let's remember that in that era, either characters simply disappeared without comment or with little comment, or they were replaced with different actors. I seem to remember that the reason was that TV executives felt that the audience would not accept a death of a beloved character, especially that of a main character.

I think of Bewitched in that Aunt Clara was just not seen again after Marion Lorne passed away; and when Alice Pearce passed away, she was replaced by Sandra Gould after a few episodes with Mary Grace Canfield. (Canfield played her sister-in-law, who had come for a short stay to help out Abner while Gladys was away.) On Hogan's Heroes, Sgt. Kinchloe just vanished when Ivan Dixon left, but was replaced by Sgt. Baker, played by Kenneth Washington. The change was not mentioned; it just was.

M*A*S*H is often cited as the first show that mentioned a character's passing. (McLean Stevenson left the show and Col. Blake was killed when his plane was shot down over the Sea of Japan.) But I don't know whether that is true. When Jack Soo passed away during the run of Barney Miller, there wasn't a write-out episode per se, but there was a tribute show; and that seemed to have served the purpose of acknowledging the character's departure. M*A*S*H and Barney Miller are more modern shows in tone and temperament than Petticoat Junction, Bewitched, and Hogan's Heroes. I guess TV executives felt that the audience by then had matured enough to accept the passing of beloved characters.

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Actually Petticoat Junction did address Charley's passing earlier in the run when Smiley Burnett died. I guess they felt Bea's passing would have been too big a blow to handle.

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