Could someone please explain the events that led to Nana's death? Thanks a lot.share
As far as I can tell, Nana told her pimp that she didn't want to be a prostitute anymore and he decided to sell her off to another pimp. Deal went sour. bang-bang. That's life.share
I'd have to disagree with you there. I doubt they would kill her for that, plus what importance would be the money exchange with that explanation?share
What happened at the end is that the other people (who were getting Nana) did not want to pay up and just wanted to threaten Rouel to leave. He shielded himself with Nana, for whom he did not give a damn. He kept on insisting for the money, the other guys shot and hit Nana. To take out his frustration, Rouel also took the last shot at Nana. The ending was filmed very well in terms of style and its execution, emphasizing the materialistic reality of the event...but you can take the contingencies which resulted in it as you like.
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Thanks for putting a spoiler in the title, you genius.share
I didn't understand the ending either, and none of the explainations here seem plausible. I think writers/directors usually struggle to find an ending for a character study.
Desipte that I liked the fresh informal feel to the film, and I think some of the dialogue was interesting. And of course there's Anna Karina.
i think the moral of the story is that PROSTITUTION IS PLAIN WRONG! AND IF YOU DO IT, YOU'RE GOING STRAIGHT TO HELL!!!
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Thanks ass... what will be the point of watching this now... Dont put a *beep* spoiler in the title.share
As the story works out, Nana has to die. This is hinted at during the time when she is watching The Passion of Joan of Arc film, and the word death is inscribed both over the face of Joan and Nana (this subtitle was not in the original Joan of Arc and was inserted by Godard.
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That's bull. It's the story of a woman (everyman) forced into a not very desireable position by her society (aka getting *beep* in the ass, if you know godard- by society) and then being killed for that reason. It's the story of Joan of Arc... DUH!share
Yes I know, and it's ironic that the physical subtitles "death" are inscribed bellow her head.
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You saw the movie and really think THAT´s the story???
What leads to her death are 2 shots. If you want an exact answer, make an exact question!
Clearly not the first to say, but is it really that hard to put a spoiler warning in the title?share
Holy smoke. I can't believe the number of crazy answers to your simple question. To understand the events leading up to her death, you've just gotta remind yourself of the couple of "tableaux" that preceded the final one. Nana's encounter with the philosopher at the restaurant and about how she found the right words to say what she wanted to say but couldn't say before. That mistakes and errors are part of living and trying to work out your own philosophy of what you want from it. That there is a necessary "social" death in isolated contemplation without others around (or having to live among other human beings) to come to that point of personal epiphany. The next tableau is of her in the room with the new boyfriend that actually cares about her (symbolized by him running down to get her a pack of cigarette while her pimp and friend just ignore her in a previous scene). He's reading from a book about love and philosophy, etc. It's that point when things solidified for Nana and she knows what it is that she wants. The ending is of the pimp trying to get something out of an "asset" he's about to lose (Nana wants to quit). He tries to trade or sell her off to another pimp presumably. There's a dispute over money and neither side would give an inch or Nana up. The gunshots from both sides do her in. The irony is that nobody gets her, including the new boyfriend. Everything comes too late for Nana, her life wasn't her life to live after all. Much like Joan of Arc, who was possessed by another, only that was God. Godard is just an existential fatalist, saying no matter what you do, you're gonna get f..ked in the end anyways. The fact that he makes references to God and gives Nana a semblance of free will is just total irony. The only real thing I've ever gotten from Godard's films is that if you're gonna get f..ked in the end anyways, do it on your own terms. That's his philosophy of art, and perhaps his philosophy of life as well.share
Great post, cokramer!!! Really enlightened me (and hopefully everybody else) about the film.share
Wow, what a fantastic post...helped clear a lot up.
This is hinted at during the time when she is watching The Passion of Joan of Arc film, and the word death is inscribed both over the face of Joan and Nana
This is my favorite scene of the film as it portrays a contrast between the two women. Joan of Arc died for her beliefs while Nana died in vain due to mixing with the wrong people. This makes Nana unlikeable considering she said earlier in the film that we are all responsible for our actions.
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not".
holy *beep*! ever heard of spoiler warning, dumbass?!share
All you people complaining about spoilers, you do realize the ending is shown in the trailer.share
To everybody complaining about spoilers:
1. Don't go searching through a discussion board for a movie you haven't seen.
2. If a movie can be ruined by the viewer already knowing the ending, that means that the movie wasn't very good to begin with. I knew the ending for Se7en, Citizen Kane, The Usual Suspects, and Fight Club going into them. All great films. It doesn't matter that you already know that Nana dies.
"One of these days, I just kick this piece of feces out the window!"
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I think Godard just ran out of money and had to tie things up in one scene. He already had aired out whatever self-stroking, pretentious BS he was trying to get across in the "philosophy" scene.
I was really enjoying the movie up until the final scene, which I see as lazy filmmaking and nothing short of Godard showing contempt for the audience. If all he has to say to me is *beep* you" then that's all I have for him as well.
I watched Vivre sa Vie in the cinema earlier tonight and there were a handful of people who slightly laughed and giggled at the ending when Anna Karina's character got shot and killed. I don't really understand why, maybe they didn't expect it? I thought it was odd.
I didn't want her to die, but oh well, this is Godard and I guess I should've expected it.
I think the ending is too heavy handed to the point of being comical. It looks as if it's straight from a Hollywood mob movie. You just replace the wiseguys with pimps and Nana gets whacked.share