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We're teenagers. I liked it. My friend didn't.


The movie was on television today and I decided to watch it with my fried. My friend and I are both 17 years old and we are both on similar maturity/intellectual levels.

I just found it irritating my friend wouldn't take it seriously. I, on the other hand, enjoyed it for multiple reasons including the script and the handsome Warren Beatty . My friend couldn't stop complaining about the wardrobe and the "hard to follow dialogue". I thought the bathtub scene was so well done and I wish I could react the same way to my mom. My friend laughed at it.

I thought the ending was realistic. My friend wanted a happy ending. She didn't understand why Deanie, Ginny, or Bud were reacting the way they did, but I thought the reason was simple.

It's sad that such a good film nowadays could be shreded to pieces by teens even though the same age group adored it 40 years ago. What gives? By watching the film, the mindset is still the same. Although I'm a girl, I understood Bud because I have a similar issue with my mom and I sided with Deanie because of the whole double standard.

I wake up from dreams and go "Wow, put this down on paper."

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Judging from your post, you're very mature-minded & appreciate a good story -I like happy endings too, but not all stories have them -Maybe b/c life doesn't either -Like Bud said at the end, 'You have to take what comes' -Your friend needs to understand the movie reflected the dialogue, wardrobe & also social morals for the time it represented -There are millions of good movies that exist beyond one's specific lifetime

Here's some suggestions:

-Romeo & Juliet (both 1969 & 1996)
-Love is a Many Spendored Thing
-Pretty in Pink
-Triston & Isolde
-Like Water for Chocolate
-Somewhere in Time
-Beauty & the Beast (1987 TV series)

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'I just found it irritating my friend wouldn't take it seriously. I, on the other hand, enjoyed it for multiple reasons including the script and the handsome Warren Beatty . '

This is EXACTLY why I don't watch classic movies with people my age. Problem solved!

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This is EXACTLY why I don't watch classic movies with people my age.


Ah, same here. I tend to get laughed at, looked at funny, or have people simply nod their heads endlessly trying to hide how disinterested they are when I try to explain to my friends and peers which films I like. What's worse, the older the movie, the weirder and longer the stares. Especially when they're in black and white. But I always persist in introducing my friends to these gems when I can, and thankfully some can appreciate them as I do. Personally, I love the old films; I grew up on TCM. I think the quality of movies back then was much better in many respects. Sure the dated-ness is an issue with some, but classics like this one shouldn't be overlooked simply because of that or because it isn't well known anymore.

Why did I write? Because I found life unsatisfactory.
*~Tennessee Williams~*

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Triple,

I'll write posts like this on IMDB from time to time regaring my generation.

As briefly, but detailed as I can put it, today's generation(ALL AGES) are meaterialistic! Materialism results in a loss of critical thinking, which is sacrificed for the idea(and hope) for instant gratification. People nowadays, don't know how to think, they just know how to act, and this is just leading to more apathy. When today's audience looks at Deanie's visible expressions, they will not comprehend how she's feeling unless she blatantly says it. Because of this, today's audience(like my friend) will be bored to death when they watch the film because they are expecting instant answers without searching for it or thinking about it, it's ultimately a trait they lack.

People, nowadays, search so hard to act and be something so great on the outside because this is what the public is judging them on. Society will seldom judge you on the inside before the outside. Unfortanately, and not really their fault, these people become insensitive, selfish, insecure, and shallow. None of these traits will help them understand the film.

The film, for the most part, is comprehended by the unspoken words. Deanie reacting the way she did in the bathtub, Bud reacting the way he did in front of the doctor, Deanie and Bud's sense of unhappiness as they tell each other their final goodbyes in the last scene, Deanie's inability to hide her emotions when the teacher tells her to define Thoreou's poem which is eerily similar to her own life, etc.. These, imo, were the best parts of the film.

It's a great film, timeless in every sense. Too bad it's shreaded apart by such people.

I wake up from dreams and go "Wow, put this down on paper."

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I'm 25 and I like most old films, mostly the old films that stuck it to the horrid Hay's Code and found clever ways around their prudish rules of black and white morals(I love films like Mildred Pierce, Sunset Boulevard, Leave Her to Heaven, Night of the Hunter, The Women, Marie Antoinette, Gypsy, Shadow of a Doubt, The Apartment, Imitation of Life, etc)

This film just doesn't seemed like an old film nor feel like it, it's so hard for me to believe it's made in 1961(how did it get past the Hay's Code?), it's so modern in it's bluntness and sexuality and most of all it's characters, it was so much like the rich independent films that plays at Cannes, not sugar coded at all and very raw with such dark realism, so unlike the other films from the early 60s I saw with Sandra Dee, Doris Day, Jerry Lewis, Rock Hudson.

Jacks

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By the early-'60s, due to competition from an influx of "looser" European films, American films were relaxing just a bit, although the code was still in place.

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Non-sequiturs are delicious.

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when the teacher tells her to define Thoreou's poem which is eerily similar to her own life

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a great post but who is Thoreou?

http://www.kindleflippages.com/ablog/

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But if you're as mature as you've led us to believe, then surely you understand what an opinion is and how it works.
It's okay. You and your friend aren't required to like everything together.

Real LOSERS spell 'loser' looser!

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Well, you and your friend have different tastes in movies. But the more people you get to know, the more likely you'll find others who share your interest in classic films.
When I was a teen (many, many years ago), old films came back into fashion for a while on public television and I saw a lot of classic films that way. So I discovered them earlier. Your peers will eventually catch up with you, at least some of them! :)






Get me a bromide! And put some gin in it!

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When I was a teenager, we seemed more accepting of older films. And I think that was, in part, because there was no Internet, and home video and cable were much more limited (if they existed at all). So most cities in America had three network stations, an independent (i.e., "rerun") station, and one PBS station.

So the choices were more limited.

One thing that's also different is that showbiz shows like ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT used to do a lot of retrospective pieces mixed in with bits on modern movies as well as the obligatory contemporary scandal stories. But over the last 10 years or so, ET-type shows focus only on new new scandal, new gossip, and don't even discuss the new projects (unless there's a corporate connection between the show and a new movie being released).

So the most they give you in terms of retro-coverage is if an icon dies. Maybe.

That's got to skew the perspective of the younger generation... Self-absorption is natural for that age up to a point, but when the media has stopped giving you any any info about the past entirely, how's a kid supposed to know what happened in the world before they were born??
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"we are both on similar maturity/intellectual levels."

It sounds to me like you're not. I think you are quite a bit ahead of your friend.

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