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Am I the only Rifleman fan...?


Who didn't want Lucas to get married?

I know I am in the minority in preferring Lou over Millie (although I liked Millie as well) but I am glad the writers never had Lucas get married. In an interview, Chuck actually says he went door to door with a Rifleman survey and personally asked viewers and they said they didn't want his character married.

I know people argue that they wanted Mark to have a step mother and a feminine influence in his life but the core ingredient to The Rifleman was the incomparable dynamic between father and son, and in real life, between Chuck and Johnny. If you ask me, they were father and son. Their relationship is one of the most beautiful things I have seen.

I just think the dynamic would have been changed if Lucas had married either Lou or Millie and if one of them had moved into the ranch.

There was something special about Lucas and Mark only having each other, in the whole world, to depend on. The reunion in the episode when Lucas went undercover as a Federal Agent just wouldn't have been the same. That fear and desperation and utter grief at losing the only person you have just would not have been the same or as potent. Lucas and Mark were so so close, not only because they were father and son and the best of friends, but because they had lost their wife (Lucas) and their mother (Mark) so ofcourse that gelled them even closer to each other.

I just like the focus remaining on LUCAS and MARK, not an additional person moving onto the ranch and being in all of their scenes. It would have taken something away from their dynamic.

Am I alone?

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No, you aren't alone. I always felt the show was best-served with the single father-son relationship, something that was rare in those days (and even now, we are often inundated with single mother households on tv) and made the show unique. A marriage would've taken away that quality.

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The single father-son relationship was very different for TV during that era. The Producers took a big chance that worked out Great!. I'm glad they kept that theme.
PS: I am a fan. Used to watch the reruns when I was a kid. I even had a toy replica of the Rifle Lucas uses.
Just this past year I have watched the series on 'MeTV'.
My young son LOVES IT!!!

~^~ YES! It Really IS Me. ~^~

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I definitely agree that the foundation of the program was the relationship between father and son. In this case two was company, three would have been a crowd.

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Hey the single father and son relationship was not that unique. How about Flipper? Porter Ricks had two sons and no wife. Steve Douglas in My Three Sons was a widower with several sons, Andy Griffith Show he was a single father with a young son and later Courtship of Eddie's Father who had a son. I'm sure there were others. I have to admit Lucas and Mark were a great team.

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Yes, but the Rifleman was the first portrayal of a widowed single father raising a son on his own. So, in that way, it was unique.

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"The Rifleman" pre-dated "Flipper", "My Three Sons", "Andy Griffith", and "The Courtship of Eddie's Father". It was probably the first television show about a single father. "Bachelor Father" came a year earlier (1957), but was about a single man who was raising his niece.

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I much preferred Lou over Millie (Joan Taylor was a marvelous actresses and played "Millie" beautifully), but that is probably due to my own male instincts. Lou was just freaking gorgeous. To most men she is just sexier period. On a Rifleman Facebook group we've done a few unscientific polls and Lou wins by a healthy margin.

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Agreed.

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I think the show could have worked well with or without Lucas being married. For some unexplained reason, some Westerns seemed to prefer unmarried protagonists.

Look at Bonanza where Ben Cartwright had three wives who each died early and I think the wives were not ever shown during the series. Moreover, the Cartwright sons remained unmarried as well.

The producers liked the idea of the rugged individualist who didn't need a woman in his life. This is not realistic for most men but these shows were all about fantasy.

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I think the wives were not ever shown during the series.
Not so. It wasn't too long ago I saw the one who was killed by Indians. I don't know about the other two.

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There was at least one flashback episode for each of Ben's wives... I believe Hoss' mother was the only one with TWO flashbacks to her credit.

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Since this was before birth control and antibiotics, many women died in childbirth.

In fact prior to WW1, MORE WOMEN DIED giving birth than MEN did in BATTLES.

So for that reason it's not that uncommon for the males to be alone back then.

And the west was also still a pretty wild place to live (which would also make it a much less desirable area for many females to want to settle down in).

On the MARATHON session that they had today on the SUNDANCE channel (which just ended), the DOC also mentions how he's the only one around in a 200 MILE area.

And he also mentions how some woman who is about to give birth again also already has 12 KIDS and probably doesn't need him that much for that reason.

So if LUCAS had married someone, then we'd probably also be looking at the birth of a baby each year which would also have radically changed the show.


And since LUCAS also keeps talking about how tight money was for the 2 of them, imagine how much worse off they'd have been with a dozen more mouths to feed.


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Nope, not alone. Lucas's yearning becomes the viewer's yearning. Besides, how many t,v. Shows have lost their allure when the main characters got married, had a baby, got a job, etc.? I think they did it just right, and probably ended it when they should have (if Branded was any hint of the writing that was available). The Rifleman is a perfect pearl in all it flawed beauty.

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Nope, not alone. Lucas's yearning becomes the viewer's yearning. Besides, how many t,v. Shows have lost their allure when the main characters got married, had a baby, got a job, etc.? I think they did it just right, and probably ended it when they should have (if Branded was any hint of the writing that was available). The Rifleman is a perfect pearl in all it flawed beauty.

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I totally agree. The show worked just as it was--father and son.

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Couldn't have said it better myself. Lucas and his son Mark, that's it,. No women allowed..lol Part of the intrigue of the show revolved around a single dad raising his son...Why make it a typical family show with a mom and dad..etc???...I wouldn't have wanted Lucas to hook up with any of the women they had on that show..Especially not Lou....boy was she obnoxious! ugh! even when she was being "nice" she came off obnoxious..Just something about her character got my dander up..lol Millie was better but even then..I just prefer Lucas raising his son Mark and that was it..

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Right and if Mark needed some mothering Lucas could call on Hattie. She was great with the advice. In The Prodigal Mark claims for the first time he had a grandmother but Hattie was just like his grandmother until she left to live in Mayberry, NC.

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