Dathan - Where are we going?
Guard - To Hell, I hope!
Looking at the world, through amber colored glasses.
The Christians took the fiery hell idea from the Greeks.
shareGehenna is a Jewish concept of hell. So it's not just a Christian concept.
shareGehenna was where the pantheistic early settlers of the area sacrificed people. By the time of Jesus it was where Jerusalem burned its garbage, thus the fires of Gehenna.
Ask any Rabbi & you will be told there is no hell in Judaism.
Well, Jesus was a Jew and talks about a place that's very much like hell many times.
shareThat's interesting. I'd never heard of that. Thanks for sharing.
Looking at the world, through amber colored glasses.
Looking at the world, through amber colored glasses.
Hell is not a Christian concept (and it's not a Jewish concept either).
The word "hell" is never used in the Bible, that is in the original Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew text.
"Hell" is a translation of the word "Gehenna", which means or refers to the "valley of Hinnom", a valley near Jerusalem. Using the word "hell" can not even be described as translation - "hell" is a pagan concept. In ancient time Hinnom was used as a public crematory, where the bodies of executed criminals were burned. Jesus Christ used that place as a symbol, not a symbol of eternal torment, but a symbol of non-existence. No living persons were thrown into the fire, only dead persons. Persons and things that are burned, are destroyed forever - they are not being kept alive or tortured.
Ah, we have a JW among us.
§ "Precisely the point of a lonnnng dinin' table."
Hell is a real place for satan, the demons and anyone who rejects Christ. It is eternal torment. Jesus speaks of hell more than He speaks of heaven because He loves us so much and is warning us. This is why it's so important to turn to Jesus and get right with God before it's too late. There are no other chances once you enter eternity.
I belong to Jesus: my Lord, Savior, my eternity, my everything. I love you, Jesus!
Considering that the Bible (the orginal Hebrew and Green text) doesn't contain the word "hell", we can conclude that hell isn't a Christian concept. The Bible Here is a picture of it:
http://www.generationword.com/jerusalem101-photos/hinnom/hinnom-valley-3.JPG
The Bible clearly says that death - not eternal torment - is God's way of punishing the wicked:
"For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." (Romans 6:23, King James Version)
The dead don't exist - that is evident from Ecclesiastes 9:5,6,10. Therefore they can not be tormented. And it's very unlikely - to say the least - that God would forever burn someone in fire and that he would let the valley of Hinnom be a simbol of that, considering what he says in Jeremiah 7:30-31:
"For the sons of Judah have done that which is evil in My sight," declares the Lord, "they have set their detestable things in the house which is called by My name, to defile it. They have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, which I did not command, and it did not come into My mind [or: heart]."
And likewise in Jeremiah 19:3-6:
""Because they have forsaken Me and have made this an alien place and have burned sacrifices in it to other gods, that neither they nor their forefathers nor the kings of Judah had ever known, and because they have filled this place with the blood of the innocent and have built the high places of Baal to burn their sons in the fire as burnt offerings to Baal, a thing which I never commanded or spoke of, nor did it ever enter My mind [or: heart]; therefore, behold, days are coming," declares the Lord, "when this place will no longer be called Topheth or the valley of Ben-hinnom, but rather the valley of Slaughter."" (both quotes are from New American Standard Bible)
The very thought of burning men and women in fire has never come into God's mind or heart. No, that was something that OTHER gods, FALSE gods (like Baal) demanded.
Tolkien would never approve of the way some of his so-called fans behave on these boards.
So it’s settled. God does not speak of a place called Hell, which is a pagan concept.
Therefore it’s valid that the concept of hell made its way into this movie via a pagan.
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The Rolling Stones - Sympathy For The Devil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgnClrx8N2k