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Not that realistic in the fact that..


The streets are always too clean..no horse manure anywhere or anything..either they have the best street sweeper in the universe or..

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I read somewhere that the soundstage set eventually became rather foul-smelling.

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And this situation was exacerbated with the advent of color...at least in relation to the look. And I can believe the smell was rather noticeable!

I commented on the Wagon Train forum that the color episodes seem to be "cleaner". Everything is so bright and colorful. To me, the B&W episodes just have a dirtier look. And bathing was (for the most part) pretty low on the priority list for folks living on the prairie or traveling on a wagon train, where water could be more valuable than gold.

For example, the makeup. In the color episodes the makeup is much more noticeable. The women's faces are heavily painted and it really stands out. In the B&W episodes the greasepaint they used to mimic a 5 o'clock shadow looked more authentic. In the color episodes it looks like greasepaint.

On a historical note, it was only during the 1860's that Pasteur said doctors should wash their hands before delivering babies (or any other medical procedure), and he was ostracized by many well-respected members of the scientific community for saying it.

Terrance Hill as Trinity...the look of that character is probably a lot closer to the way a lot of folks actually were in that era.

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On a historical note, it was only during the 1860's that Pasteur said doctors should wash their hands before delivering babies (or any other medical procedure), and he was ostracized by many well-respected members of the scientific community for saying it.
This is a confusing point, as it seems Doc Adams follows antiseptic practice when it wasn't commonplace.

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Doc was following Dr Joseph Lister's admonition.

"a malcontent who knows how to spell"


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Terrance Hill as Trinity...the look of that character is probably a lot closer to the way a lot of folks actually were in that era.

It's funny you should mention that stuff. What I've seen of it was raw as hell. I remember one love scene or something where the girl had a big pimple on her face, and they all hold silverware in their fist and eat with their whole arm.

sorry for the grossness

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Would you prefer a scene like this one from Bonanza (1959)?

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Would you prefer a scene like this one from Bonanza (1959)?

Yeah, when I catch one of the two on TV I can almost instantly tell which is which, or at least which one is not Gunsmoke. MeTV or TV Land runs a couple others that are "too clean" like Bonanza. The Bonanza stuff that isn't a painting on a cardboard backdrop somehow still looks like a painting. I remember somebody slapping someone on the back on a Gunsmoke, and a cloud came off of them.

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The Bonanza stuff that isn't a painting on a cardboard backdrop somehow still looks like a painting.
Did you look at the Bonanza thread? It definitely describes a scene that the OP had been looking for, a western rarity indeed. In this case the backdrop came from a horse.

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Yuck... saw it! 😁

Actually, it looks like at least four times. He starts, and then Joe blocks him for a second, then he continues.

All things considered, that looks like it might be a good episode from the cast. I can't remember watching it, so I probably will later.

Take Care

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I should have included a clip of the horse doing his business. Here goes:

https://youtu.be/GitP9yuCBR4?t=16m50s

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It's a TV show, not a documentary. People watch for entertainment; not to see horse sh*t on the street.


I watch alotta TV...but that doesn't mean I don't have a job.

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It's a TV show, not a documentary. People watch for entertainment; not to see horse sh*t on the street.
Not that I revel in bathroom humor, but it can be entertaining in the right situation.

On one episode of the Carol Burnett Show, she was talking to the audience while standing on a stage decorated in western fashion, with a horse behind her.

During the scene the horse raised his tail to let nature take its course. An older fellow in jeans, flannel shirt and cowboy hat hurried out with a 10 gallon bucket and put it under the horse's backside to catch what was falling.

When the horse finished his business the guy turned, smiled and tipped his hat to Carol Burnett.

The audience went ballistic, people were falling in the aisles nearly stroking out they were laughing so hard. I don't think I ever saw my mother and father laughing like that.

In that instance the audience was absolutely entertained.

And I'll betcha that somewhere out there....there's an outtake reel of all the times they were trying to be deadly serious on the Gunsmoke set only to have a horse ruin the dramatic scene by breaking wind or raising his tail. I would imagine there were a few laughs when that kinda thing happened.

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The same thing happened to Red Skelton. On a blooper reel, we see him on stage with a mule when the animal picked that moment to take a dump.

I give credit to Gunsmoke because it doesn't try to be neat and tidy. The piano is out of tune, Doc Adams does't wash his hands before extracting a bullet out of some one's body... and their clothing doesn't appear to have just come out of the laundry.

Personally, I am a stickler for detail. I get drawn into the story when the filmmakers pays attention to it's own production.



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I give credit to Gunsmoke because it doesn't try to be neat and tidy. The piano is out of tune, Doc Adams does't wash his hands before extracting a bullet out of some one's body... and their clothing doesn't appear to have just come out of the laundry.

I'm the same way with that stuff and it it definitely helps, though I guess you can have too much of a good thing, as Deadwood drove me crazy in that regard. Looked like they were knee deep in mud everywhere they went and the over-the-top cussing sounded like it was written by The Schofield Kid from Unforgiven. Gunsmoke has a "classy" amount of realism. I like to think that if it came out under today's limits it still wouldn't be that much more crude or graphic.

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Looked like they were knee deep in mud everywhere they went
I've seen some discussion about that, and the consensus seems to indicate that the muddy streets were there sometimes, but not all the time.

I find some shows really reflect the era they were made. A good example is The Young Riders...there's a very 80s feel to it. The guy with the dangly earring for example.

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Ben Thayer. Lots have to do with the film stock, the colorization, the background music and sometimes, the hair style. Just by watching Lee Van Cleef in any Sabata , or Clint Eastwood with Sergio Leon spaghetti westerns, we absolutely know it's the late 1960s.

One silly nagging inconsistency I found in George Romero's zombie movies (which I adore), was that in the first movie, Night of the Living Dead, it is 1968. It looks like 1968 and it feels like 1968. Then came Dawn of the Dead... it looks like 1978... it feels like 1978. By Survival of Dead, well... it's certainly not 1968 any more and it shows.

Therefore, every zombie apocalypse reflects the decade it was made.

I hate to bring other TV shows into this thread, but there have been such lousy productions, it's a wonder they lasted more than one season.

One defunct TV show from the 70s was called Starlost. It was so bad in every respect that the viewer was never drawn into the atmosphere of the sci fi they were watching. The 'feel'... the illusion... it simply wasn't there.

The same with the 1960's Lost in Space. We see plainly that the monsters are recycled costumes and the boulders are made out of paper mache. But, at least they had chemistry between actors Jonathan Harris, Bill Mummy and the robot.


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I wouldn't disagree with anything you've said.

I watch alotta TV...but that doesn't mean I don't have a job.

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I've been watching early seasons of "Gunsmoke", the half-hour, black-and-white episodes, and I've often seen mud where water has run across the dirt street, something I don't remember seeing in other tv westerns of the 1950s.

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