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Wonderful holiday movie.... One of my favorites actually. However, I always cringe when Stanwyck's character refers to the baby as 'it.'

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I agree deborahkerr1992 so far this was a wonderful holiday movie . I'm actually watching it on TCM for the very first time right now . Just a couple of wild guesses here but perhaps that " It reference " about the baby was to show back in the day that unmarried women without children referred to babies as " it " ? Of course that is so not true even in this day and age . It could be the writers point of view on this back then ( but don't know the facts on that and can't speak for the writer either ) . At first I thought it was because she had not asked if the baby was a girl or boy so would just compensate by calling the baby " it " but after she knew kept calling the baby " it " again but could also be part of the characters overall nervous comedy frame of mind too . At least she was calling the cow a " she " . This movie is quite comedic the " flip flapjack joke " was a riot . Although I wonder how many times exactly she kept calling the baby " it " in this film ? It could have been made into a " drinking game " for some or a " popcorn game " for others ( every time the word is said eat one popcorn kernel ? ) . Thanks deborahkerr1992 for your subject post .

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I believe it was purposeful, to remind the audience that Elizabeth is uncomfortable with babies and knows absolutely nothing about them. Plus she's sort of scared of 'it', lol.

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ModernAudrey is exactly right. Referring to the baby as "it" was a great devise to show how completely out of her element Elizabeth Lane was in the persona she adopted for the magazine column.

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Actually, I thought it was a pretty funny moment. In the bath scene, she refers to the baby as "him", not knowing she's a girl. Then uses "her" instead, even when the baby has been replaced with a boy. Then, out of confusion or/and cautioness she opts for the most neutral pronoun.

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I think it was common back in the day and not intended as a character's idiosyncrasy. In "The Birds" from 1963 Tippi Hendren says that she is involved in a charity that is sending a Korean boy through school. She says, "We actually raise money for it."

"I told you a million times not to talk to me when I'm doing my lashes"!

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That "it" is referring to the schooling, not the boy.

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Those babies are seniors now, if they are still living.

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That's how uncomfortable and uncaring she is about the baby.

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I always cringe when Stanwyck's character refers to the baby as 'it.'
It is sort of cringe-worthy, but don't forget --- Stanwyck had just found out that she would be getting a boy for that day, after having told Greenstreet that the child was a girl the day before --- she certainly didn't want to arouse Greenstreet's suspicions by calling the baby "him," nor be caught later in a lie (at bathtime, for instance !) by calling him "her" --- unfortunately, there were not many options left for Stanwyck !

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Referring to a baby as "it" must have been a cultural norm in the 1930's and '40's, because I've noticed it many times in movies of the period. (And I always crack up.) Just one of the examples of how language changes over the years. Another one is the word "fantastic." Back then it meant other-worldly or too far-fetched to believe. Now it's a synonym of "great," or the over-used "awesome."

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Yeah, hello, "it's a boy" or "its a girl". People are more sensitive today, and, apparently don't get the purpose this serves to the character and plot.

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Totally agree with you c1979.

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Referring to a baby as "it" must have been a cultural norm in the 1930's and '40's, because I've noticed it many times in movies of the period.


I think this is true; even in the Christmas classic, "Miracle on 34th Street", Kris Kringle says, "Imagine making a child take something it doesn't want because he ordered too much" of the wrong kind of toy. "Child" is gender-neutral, so the gender-neutral pronoun "it" is used with it. Grammatically correct, probably, though most people wouldn't use it today.

I also think, though, as others have stated, that Elizabeth didn't want to give away the baby's gender one way or the other!





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A couple of intelligent responses, many posters were just obtuse.

It will be easier if I just put the OP on IGNORE.

Perhaps the OP just wants to reach out for some sense of community.

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