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Joan Fontaine as a 14 year old?


Maybe it's just me, but when watching Joan flit about,
I kept chuckling thinking of Diana Lynn telling Ginger Rogers in
"The Major and the Minor" to "cut out the phony kid act, nobody acts
like that". It didn't help that later Fontaine had on pretty much the same schoolgirl outfit Rogers wore in her film.
Fontaine's fragile flower cinema persona is perfect for the role
however, so I can see why she was cast, but it was hard to get past that she looked like a mature woman acting like a kid. Others here and Leonard Maltin
praised her realistic portrayal, so perhaps I'm alone, or does anyone else agree?

And how cool is Charles Coburn in this!?

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I'm watching the film right now; and, I have seen mature (physically) looking 14 year olds but--and it's not just her looks but her overall demeanor that doesn't; even for the period, seem well pulled off.

-Nam

I'm on the road less traveled...

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I didn't buy it at all...and I didn't buy him either.

People are really not that unaware.

If I'm aware of observable behavior...then the actor/director should be too.

In fact, I was annoyed by Joan's manipulative cloying type of performance throughout and only a foolish vain male could be dazzled, befuddled and duped by it...and I didn't necessarily buy him as being such a man.

Although, very talented she made for quite a successful career with this style of acting and in the context in which this script was written, perhaps she had no other choice to play it this manner.

A shame the writer and director allowed too many dramatic beats to ring untruthfully, miss too many opportunities to sustain intelligent insight and offer a genuine resolve to a problem many infatuated young girls face in their lives and in general, lift this film from it's melodramatic quagmire into memorable award winner territory.

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Even back in 1943, how could audiences have been able to put out of their minds that Fontaine had already played married women in three famous films, winning an Oscar for one. So to me it's akin to Kevin Spacey playing the teenage Bobby Darin, or early-forties Matt Damon playing the late-teens lover of Liberace. We know these actors are not those ages, and they're too famous to just blend.

There are exceptions. Judy Garland made it work as Dorothy in The Wizard of Oz, and Angela Lansbury as Laurence Harvey's mother in The Manchurian Candidate.

"Well, for once the rich white man is in control!" C. M. Burns

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First a word about Joan's character Tessa being manipulative. I agree she used tactics that were such, but with good intentions, so I think Dodd did not focus too much on the manipulative aspect of her behavior. More important is he felt she imparted muse like benefits to him. She inspired him, and as such he would be more willing to overlook, or even to not consider, that her behavior at times might be questioned.

As for Joan's performance, one may always count on a difference of opinion on IMDb, but count me as one who thought it a great one. In fact one could see Joan in effect influencing Alexis Smith, by inspiring her, and Alexis also gave a great performance.

While Tessa at times seemed a bit manic, that was within the character portrayed, and not the least bit implausible or inappropriate. It is silly to complain about flaws of the character and attribute them to the actor involved.

Joan Fontaine is perhaps not often thought of as a physical performer, but here she matched the manners and movements extremely well to the age of her character. I do concede some later close-ups to the beautiful Ms. Fontaine did not really look like a mid-teen, but on the whole the performance was more than believeable. I think the naysayers here may have been aware of the age difference before seeing the film, and had that influence their perceptions.



I did question Boyer as the male lead, to some extent. But Joan I recall said he was great to work with, and in the end I think he worked in the role. But I did find Joan and Alexis to have the better performances. Peter Lorre was also very good.

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I think the naysayers here may have been aware of the age difference before seeing the film, and had that influence their perceptions.


Yes, and I would suggest to future filmmakers that if you don't want naysayers to be aware of the age difference before seeing your film, don't cast a famous actor who recently won an Oscar.


"Well, for once the rich white man is in control!" C. M. Burns

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"Yes, and I would suggest to future filmmakers that if you don't want naysayers to be aware of the age difference before seeing your film, don't cast a famous actor who recently won an Oscar"

You may have known this when you posted it, but you miss the point. The point I made previously is that the criticisms of hte age difference had more to do with factors external to the film itself, that being their knowledge of the actual age of the actress, rather than the intrinsic performance.

Ironicallly at the time, as noted by TCM's Robert Osborne, audiences were impressed by Fontaine's ability to convincingly portray a character so much younger. But today it becomes a candidate for the dreary practice of "gotcha!", the search for superficial goofs and alleged plot holes that really aren't.

If you just watch the performance, you will be impressed. That is my point.

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I think it's funny that Joan Fontaine is actually 4 years older than Alexis Smith. A 26 year old woman at the time playing a 14 year old girl.

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I love Joan Fontaine in her Hitchcock movies, and she gave many fine performance. Her acting in "The Constant Nymph" is a disaster; it's inconceivable that she received an Oscar nomination.

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