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Marjorie as Dance Partner


Has anyone ever read/heard anything about Fred Astaire's opinion of Marjorie Reynolds as a dance partner? They never paired up again, and I wondered. I think he was usually pretty vocal about such things.

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The only thing I ever heard about Fred referring to his dance partners is that he said the best partner was a dancer called Barrie Chase who I believe was his partner on a TV special. I always thought he looked the best with Ginger Rogers. Guess that's why they made so many movies together. They were magic together!

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Barrie Chase played the showgirl in White Christmas whose stock line was "mutual, I'm sure". Her bio on imdb alludes to her having done four tv specials with Fred Astaire.

I wish I could remember which one of his dance partners (it wasn't Ginger and it wasn't Barrie Chase - I just looked) said something to the effect that Astaire's favorite person to dance with was himself.

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Marjorie Reynolds didn't do most of the dancing in the movie. It was a woman named June Chapman. She was a professional dancer and actress. Marjorie couldn't dance. June said that Fred was hard to dance with and that he was a perfectionist, I have no idea what Fred thought of June as a partner. Bing, on the other hand, was quite the gentlemen. Since June didn't get any acknowledgment for doing the dancing, he had a broach made for her with her name in diamonds.
I know all of this because June is my grandmother. I have stills from when the movie was being filmed and lots of stories about it.

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Very interesting, never knew that.

I'll have to watch more closely those dancing scenes. I guess Reynolds did do the simpler stuff and then long shots showed June Chapman. No wonder Marjorie Reynolds never became one of Paramount's musical stars after HOLIDAY INN. I always thought she was the weakest link in the whole film.

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Years ago when I did the musical "Purlie" in California, our costume mistress was an ex-chorus dancer from the '40's. She spoke of a good many films in which some actors were made to seem to dance, and and how some dancers cheated in terms of their camera "footwork". Although, she never spoke of Marjorie
Reynolds specifically, she did tell me of how many dancers ( Gene Kelly, Cyd Charisse, and Rita Hayworth as examples) didn't perform some routines in long shot, or how often their "taps" were dubbed by someone else. So, I think it's entirely reasonable to believe that June Chapman may have performed some parts of Miss Reynolds dancing in "Holiday Inn". Stranger things have been known to happen in Hollywood, after all it's the place where professional singers sometimes get dubbed by non professionals!!

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Here is an article about Reynolds in which she describes her experience dancing with Astaire:

http://www.classicimages.com/articles/2007/04/06/past_articles/reynoldsmarjorie.txt

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Before Rita Hayworth made movies, she had been a professional tap dancer with her father.

She also did many numbers without tap but that was what she was famous for in Spain and South America.

No one dubbed anything with this women. She did every dance number on her own.

She could also sing but preferred to dance in movies.

Marjorie Reynolds in one of her biographies had been a dancer before pictures also. She said of herself that her singing was mediocure and had to have lessons.

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I found June Chapman listed as an uncredited dancer for Holiday Inn on the IMDB website:

Other crew
Daniel Dare .... stager: dance ensembles (as Danny Dare)
Bob Crosby Orchestra .... specialty accompaniments (as Bob Crosby's Band)
Jean Bosquet .... publicist (uncredited)
June Chapman .... dancer (uncredited)
Bob Crosby .... specialty accompaniments band director (uncredited)


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034862/combined


Now, what type of dancing she did, I don't know. She could have rehearsed with Fred, or danced in the line when Bing was singing his 4th of July number, or was a stand-in for Marjorie or Virginia. Whatever it was, she was there.

So the person who posted about June was telling the truth about her being on the set of the movie and a dancer.

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fred said his favorite dance partner was gene kelly

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The great Vera Ellen said that. "Fred Astaire will never say, though he's always asked, which of his dancing ladies was his favorite partner. If you ask me, he preferred the solo turns."

They danced together in "Three Little Words" and "The Belle of New York."

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Fred said the best dance partner he ever had was Rita Hayworth and he was sorry they only did two movies together, "You Were Never Lovelier" and "You'll Never Get Rich".

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Fred always said his favorite partner was Gene Kelly. Though that was probably so as not to offend anyone. I don't know what you mean about his being vocal, he was always very polite as far as I can tell.

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That's interesting that Reynolds didn't do much of her own dancing and did none of her singing. I always thought it odd that part of the Valentine's Day number was filmed in shadow, almost like a film noir. Now I guess I know why. Maybe she just had the right look for the part. She more than holds her own with Bing and Fred, though. I've always enjoyed her.

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Someone is fantasizing or is misinformed. Marjorie Reynolds most definitely did all of her own dancing in "Holiday Inn." She was an experienced professional. In his autobiography, "Steps in Time," Fred Astaire states that he danced with her in the movie. It ceases to be a matter of opinion or speculation, however, due to the fact that Marjorie's face can be recognized easily during every moment of every shot of every dance number her character participates in. Perhaps someone's grandmother was a stand-in or something, but no one took Marjorie's place when the cameras were rolling. Sometimes older people tend to expand and stretch their youthful experiences, maybe fibbing to impress youngsters, or just letting their imaginations get the better of them.

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I emailed TCM to see if they had any info on whether she did her own dancing, but they couldn't find "any evidence" of her having a dance double. They suggested trying SAG or the Oscars, which I haven't done yet. Hilarygordon, can you give us any more or more specific info about your grandmother or her experiences with the movie? I'm really interested to find out if what you posted was true--no offense meant. And was she in any more films? She doesn't have an IMDb listing. If she did dance for Marjorie, there has to be a record of it somewhere. They used to keep very detailed records of the making of films.

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I totally agree!!! I could not find any infos on the web stating this June person doing the dance numbers for Marjorie. It just doesn't make sense at all! kga58, if you find anything informations please let us know!

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Just watch the movie. In the dance numbers, you can see Marjorie's face clearly the whole time. It's obvious there's no trickery going on. I don't think they had CGI "face replacement" technology when "Holiday Inn" was made.

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Just playing devil's advocate, but they could have used a rubber life mask of Marjorie like they did with Dickie Moore in a dance number. He couldn't jitterbug, so a dancer wore a life mask of him. I seriously doubt that happened in this case, though.

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Marjorie's face can be seen to move during the dance numbers, smiling, breathing, blinking, etc.

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I've emailed SAG and AAMPAS to see if they can help to definitively clear this up. I wish there was a way to get a look at all the production logs for the movie. I have to say that in all the dance scenes it certainly looks like Marjorie did her own footwork.

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Many years after the original posts on the topic of Marjorie Reynolds's dancing in "Holiday Inn", I have to concede that Hillary Gordon may be right: her claim here that at least some of Reynolds's dancing was doubled is credible. In "Swinging on a Star: The War Years 1940-1946", volume two of his definitive Bing Crosby biography, Gary Giddins writes that Astaire requested dancer June Chapman (Hillary Gordon's grandmother), a "look-alike", to double for Reynolds in some of the long shots during the dances. The only source Giddins cites for this information is Hillary Gordon's IMDB post (above); however, the fact that he considered her claim plausible enough to include in his book supports its credibility. Chapman must have indeed been a remarkable look-alike, because the substitution is impossible to spot in the finished film.

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I don't know where you heard Fred was vocal about who his best dancing partners were but nothing could be further from the truth. Fred was always a gentleman and would always sidestep the question when asked who his favorite partner was. I know that later in his career he felt very connected with Barrie Chase, who appeared in a couple of TV specials with him and with whom he was rumored to be romantically linked as well. Astaire and Reynolds only danced one number together in this film and basically, Reynolds just stood there while Astaire did all the dancing around her. Personally, my favorite Fred Astaire dance partner was Cyd Charisse. When asked about dancing with Charisse, Astaire was once quoted as saying, "When you dance with Cyd...you sure stay danced with."

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Have you actually seen the movie? They dance together for several numbers. The "drunken dance", the Valentine's Day number and the Washington's birthday number, as well as the montage.

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It's been awhile since I've seen it, but I do remember that any musical scene with Marjorie Reynolds, that the choreography for the most part was kept extremely simple and a lot of dancing was done "around" her, with the possible exception of the drunk dance.

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"Astaire and Reynolds only danced one number together in this film and basically, Reynolds just stood there while Astaire did all the dancing around her."

--A quote from someone who has not seen "Holiday Inn".

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Her body is insane... unfortunately, insanely anorexic as I recently learned. She was still an amazing dancer.

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I don't know why we're so concerned about Marjorie Reynolds dancing in HI. The real find, as far as I'm concerned, is Virginia Dale. Her turn "It's So Easy to Dance With You" is as brilliant as anything Astaire did with Ginger Rogers or anyone else. Just look at her shake her hips.

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I agree with you Virginia Dale far outshines Marjorie Reynolds in her one number with Astaire.
It's alsos interesting that when she returns for the finale she's suddenly blonde.

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