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Chaney's performance as the Monster


Did anyone else think that Lon Chaney Jr. performance as the monster was pretty dam good,, maybe not quite Karloff,, but certainly good,,

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Yes, I thought it was a good performance. He looked good as the monster, and played the part very well. The only problem I had with Chaney's performance is that he never made any sounds (except when he spoke with Bela Lugosi's voice).

Karloff, even though he didn't speak in "Son of Frankenstein," managed to grunt, growl and even scream. Why these characteristics weren't carried over to Chaney's monster is a mystery to me.

Karloff, unarguably, delivered the best performance as the monster in Universal's classic "Frankenstein" canon. I would say Chaney would fall into second place in that category, and Glenn Strange would be in third place.

I don't think it would be fair to rank Lugosi at all because for all we know his performance as the monster in "Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man" may have topped Chaney's performance in "Ghost of Frankenstein." We'll never know, of course, because some bright boys at Universal decided to butcher FMTWM before release, removing all of Lugosi's speaking scenes, thus making the monster appear as a brainless, moronic dope.

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I liked Lon's monster and to me it always was a more sympathetic portrayal than what Karloff did in 'Son' where he nearly gets reduced to a mindless automaton following Ygor's commands to kill without so much as blinking. In "Ghost" the monster is back to being more "sinned against" rather than sinning as he was in the original 'Frankenstein' & 'Bride'.

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Once again, I think Chaney got stuck in a movie with a lousy script. I pretend this movie never happened because of the stupid ending. I thought Chaney gave a great performance. Karloff's performance will always be the best, but others were good. I thought Glenn Strange was good as The Monster. I even thought Lugosi was great. It's hard to imagine that that's Dracula under there in Frankenstein Meets the Wolfman. Between the always great make-up and Bela's performance, the Frankenstein Monster looked good.


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mercury4: I pretend this movie never happened because of the stupid ending.

I haven't seen this one in many years, so I won't judge the ending. I do find ignoring it a good idea because all of the playing off of it was cut out of the next one, Frankenstein meets the Wolfman, in post-production. Per here, the Monster spoke with Igor (Lugosi)'s voice and was blind during filming, but none of that made the final cut. Just pretend that Larry "The Wolfman" Talbot (Lon, Jr., again) digs the Monster out of dried-up sulfur instead of ice, ignore Bela's lip movements & blind-act groping (there isn't all that much of either), and it works.

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Lon was good. But I also think he should have made some sounds. My favorite after Boris is Glenn Strange, he looked darn good in the makeup, he moved well, and even sounded good in "A&B Meet Frankenstein". Lon just didn't have a good script to work with.

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Agreed with, but Lon is awesome with that little girl. The music (I've always been a fan of the monster music) is great especially with the little girl. Lon is very sympathetic in those scenes. He just needed a better script.

Lugosi is an interesting one. He moves very strangely especially around the arms and hands.

Karloff is the best. Period. My favorite is Bride of Frankenstein. "Friend."

Glenn Strange is decent, but I feel as if he does not add his own personal touch to the monster. You watch the others and see how they differ, and then you see Glenn, and it's like, oh he's good he's fine.

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Chaney had a terrifically expressive face in spite of the make-up.

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Lon Chaney Jr. was no Karloff, that's a given but out of all the others to play The Monster through the series he was the only one to give the creature some element of pathos. Also the monster didn't have much to do and was even less of a henchman than before. Although arguably this is the last time it is really is the Frankenstein monster from the original film as the rest of the series really should be Ygor's mind in the creatures body.

Bela Lugosi to me was the worst, it's not his fault though it was unusual to have a 60 year old man don that make up for the first time in 'Frankenstein meets The Wolfman' Lugosi's face and build doesn't sit well with the make-up they would have been better just skipping straight to a big stuntman at that stage as all the Monster would be from then on is a big brute.

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A fair amount of what you see of the monster in FMTWM is actually stuntman and actor Eddie Parker (including the very first closeup of him as Larry breaks him out of the ice, and virtually the entire fight sequence - except for Lugosi's closeups - beginning with him grabbing and picking up Elsa).

Had they decided before shooting to eliminate all of the monster's dialog, it might have been more practical to just have Parker play the part entirely, although that would have robbed the picture of the marquee value of Lugosi's name. But who knows; a new star might have been born....worked for Karloff (as either actor or stuntman, Parker has like 300 credits, beginning in - of all years - 1931).

The imdb lists him as Chaney's stunt double for FMTWM, but I've read from too many other sources - going back decades - that he doubled for Lugosi. He could have done both, but obviously not for every scene in the film! Maybe the great and powerful Cinefool - a Frankenstein expert - can set me and anyone else straight.

EDIT: According to poster porfe on the FMTWM board, that opening closeup is Gil Perkins (credited as Lugosi's double on imdb) who doubled for Lugosi along with Parker. Again, maybe Cinefool or another expert can sort it out.


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very good



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I've always liked Chaney's performance. His bulk made the Monster's strength more believable. I just wish they hadn't put so much makeup on him; his eyelids were so heavy they looked almost closed most of the time. I especially enjoyed the brief scene in the courtroom where Ludwig Frankenstein disavows him. He smiles at the doctor's appearance, thinking he's someone who will stand up for him. When Frankenstein says he's never seen "this man" before, the Monster doesn't go into an immediate rage; he puts his head down, broods over being abandoned by his last hope, then explodes. He looms over Frankenstein with both hands raised, but hesitates. He obviously doesn't want to kill Frankenstein, although he certainly seems to be justified. Only Ygor's strange horn brings him back under control. Only a few minutes, but good acting.

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I think he did a pretty good job.

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I think Chaney is a good actor,but I did not care for his Monster performance here.

He is stonefaced for most of the time in the film,we can't see his eyes due to the heavy lidded makeup on them. The only expression he shows is a slight smile when he sees Dr Frankenstein. Karloff's Monster growled,laughed,screamed and showed true emotion.

Also,since this is sequel to Son Of Frankentein,what happened to his relationship with Ygor? Chaney shows none of the love that the Monster had for Ygor in the previous film. Here the Monster shoves Ygor away and even crushes him with a door.

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