Top gun= Ripoff of this film?


Top gun= Ripoff of this film?
Discuss. Shameful.

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dunno, I've never seen Top Gun.

heh - I take it you just saw this on TCM. :)

this was a good movie - I've been visiting a friend in Canada for the past 3 years, and hearing "The Maple Leaf Forever" made me cry.

Brenda Marshall - the actress who played Emily Foster - is practically a dead ringer for an actress who stars in a Canadian sitcom called "Corner Gas".
Her name is Gabrielle Miller; here is a photo:

http://www.answers.com/topic/gabrielle-miller

check out "Corner Gas": http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0397138

*sigh*

they just don't make movies like this anymore, as the cliche goes.

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"Brenda Marshall - the actress who played Emily Foster - is practically a dead ringer for an actress who stars in a Canadian sitcom called "Corner Gas". Her name is Gabrielle Miller."

Slight resemblance, but no dead ringing going on, practical or otherwise.

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I'd wager that no one involved in the production of Top Gun ever saw this film.

It starts out as an adventure comedy, then turns into a air force film with a lot of patriotic enthusiasm thrown in. I don't recall much real comedy in Top Gun, nor even a bit of patriotic enthusiasm.

This is not to say that I didn't enjoy Top Gun... I would even watch it again. But I don't see it as a copy of Captains in the Clouds.

And incidentally, Captains in the Clouds may have borrowed from a number of airplane-theme movies of the 1930s

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Top Gun is a direct copy of most WWII airplane military movies. It tells a very old fashioned story and the way it was put together harkens back to a more innocent film making time. After WWII is when the movies really started to grow up.

Nothing is more beautiful than nothing.

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I don't think these movies have any relationship to each other. Top Gun (the way I see it, anyways), is a movie about 20-somethings, who because of their youth and therefore quick reactions (not to mention their arrogance and cockiness), are trained by the military-industrial complex to 'operate' multi-million dollar weapons platforms. This movie is less about flying and more about the shennanigans of these cocksure roosters strutting about trying to outdo each other with their expensive real-life video games, or playing adolescent mind games in the drinking parlors. That's the subplot with the Tom Cruise character, who learns how immature he is in his duties and emotionally childish in his personal life. (I don't remember all the details; I only saw this movie once, when it first came out--and that was enough).

Captains of the Clouds on the other hand, seems to be about pilots who love flying. It doesn't need to be explained in the film, but you get the idea these are the kind of guys who got one or two flying lessons, soloed--and then never looked back. The rest they learned by the seat of their pants. These guys like flying so much that they've passed into middle age and continue to survive on a subsistence lifestyle; barely making enough to pay for fuel and food--just so they can keep flying. They have no business acumen and that's why the Cagney character is undercutting them price-wise. In any event--they're all in it for the flying and that's all they know. The military portion is only the last third of the movie, so I don't really consider this a military movie per se. It's a plot device to also show how patriotic these guys are and how they want to help their country through the use of their flying abilities.

This is the way I perceive these two movies. I think Top Gun is less about flying and more about growing up; while Captains of the Clouds is about some colorful bush pilots who know nothing except their love of flying. Both movies are good in their own regards and serve their particular purposes.

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ifaught, Top Gun a rip off?

Let's see . . . .

Both TG and CoC had airplanes, pilots, and an enemy.

There were only a few small differences. TG- US Navy CoC- RCAF. TG- military pilots CoC- civilian bush pilots wanting to be military pilots. TG- Russian adversary CoC-German advisory. TG- multiple aircraft vs multiple enemy aircraft CoC- multiple aircraft vs single enemy aircraft. TG- fighters CoC- bombers. TG- one guy one girl CoC- two guys one girl. TG- carrier-based aircraft CoC- land-based aircraft. TG- warm Med CoC- cold North Atlantic. TG- son "living up to" father's reputation CoC- no fathers mentioned. TG- being the best (Top Gun) fighter pilot CoC- finding any way to fly in the war. TG- guns/missiles used against enemy CoC- enemy rammed with airplane (no guns or missiles used against enemy). TG- GIB (Guy In Back) killed in accident CoC- GIB killed by pilot showing off. TG- pilot exonerated CoC pilot washed out.

Yep, TG was a complete rip off of CoC ;-)

Great stories and I enjoyed them both. TG for the aerial photog and CoC for the historical value and special effects (rather good compared to other films of the era). If I had to pick I'd go with TG being more enjoyable because of the realism and intensity of the dogfight sequences, but I'll bet that the flying sequences of CoC were just as intense in the day.



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no way,car'nt see that at all. i first saw this film when i was maybe 9 years old.
must have been another 25 years until i saw it again. gave me a love of flying i still have but i car'nt see it as anything like topgun which i have seen many times also. two different films and 2 good films.

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Not sure about the rest of you but my sarcasm meter twitched.

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I guess the producers of Top Gun said "Oh, hey, lets ripoff stuff from Capt of clouds.

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