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Is this suppose to be a comedy


I'm not trying to be sarcastic and I like a lot of old movies. I know that movies from different decades have a different ....um.... Let's call it flavor. Some times it can be hard to get into old movies, especially silent movies I still like a lot of them Though. Especially Bogarts The Big Sleep. But this.... come on guys it's a little much. Some of those of those lines....' I'm a liar, I've always been a liar'. 'You ll be slapped and like it' 'I like to talk with a man who likes to talk to a man ....' 'He was cracking foxy'. What the hell is that even suppose to mean. Some thing about the way the characters. . hold themselves Astor is soooooo mellow dramatic. Peter Lore is wayyy to gay. And as for Bogart I loved him in Sleep, Key Largo, Cain Mutiny, and of course Casablanca But here it's a little much. He s. Little to cocky and condescending. Now if this movie to be funny then it's pretty good. But if they were just playing it straight then no good ....

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It's not supposed to be a comedy at all, it's an example of noir. The characters are intentionally over the top and even the hero has his faults. As for the dialogue, the screenplay was very faithful to the book, almost verbatim,, minus the curse words.

'Cracking foxy' was directed at the cops by Bogart, something along the lines of "Sorry I got off on my hind legs, boys, but the news of Mile's killing upset me, and you birds come here cracking foxy".

Before I give you my opinion,from the context, what do YOU deduce it to mean?

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i don't know....giving him a hard time about the murder when they should be doing something more useful. but thats basically just a guess.

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That's a logical guess. I would think that it means something like 'interrogating', or giving him 'the third degree', so to speak.

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"Cracking foxy" is 1940's slang for "pulling my leg" . . . . And this is definitely NOT a comedy. It seems full of cliches today, but this is the movie that CREATED the cliches - - the hardboiled detective, the dumb cops, the fat man, the cheap punk gunman, etc. etc.etc.

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No, it's not a comdedy but there is definitely some humor in it, some of it rather subtle but much of Bogart's dialogue is hilarious.

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There's PLENTY of humor, though it's not a comedy, understand? Maybe a crash course in old-time American slang is in order.
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No, it's not a comedy; but, yes, there is a relatively large amount of humor in it (definitely more than in most crime movies of the time).

Also:
Yes, Joel Cairo is most definitely gay. The audience is told that about as explicitly as was possible at the time (due to the Production Code rules) before he is even seen on screen. When Spade & Effie comment on Cairo's business card being floral scented and then give each other that little raised-eyebrow look, that's the big bright neon sign telling the audience that the character being introduced is gay. It may seem a ridiculous bit of stereotyping now, but at the time that was the tool that they had to signal that to the audience.

As for how Astor & Bogart play their roles: It's worth pointing out that both the Brigid and Sam *characters* often are play-acting themselves for various reasons. For example, that's the whole point how we see Sam reacting in the hallway after blowing up at Guttman: as soon as the door closes he is immediately calm, looks at his own hand shaking from "playing" enraged, and chuckles a bit to himself; he never was really angry to begin with, just playing it that way for effect. That's why there a couple times when Sam's smile is more fake-looking than anything else I've ever seen Bogart do: Sam isn't as good of an actor as Bogart is, and Bogart is playing Sam's playacting not being as seamless. And Brigid's acting (she is almost *always* conning somebody or other) isn't quite as good as Sam's, which is why Sam can see through most of her acting / lies throughout the movie (and tells her, and us by extension, as much). In short, Bogart and Astor aren't acting poorly; Sam and Brigid are acting poorly and Bogart and Astor do a good job of portraying that fact.

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"Some of those of those lines....' I'm a liar, I've always been a liar'. 'You ll be slapped and like it' 'I like to talk with a man who likes to talk to a man ....' 'He was cracking foxy'."

It's "tough guy" talk of the time.

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Agreed not a comedy but some great funny monents. I get the feeling this was a fun time the actors were having making the movie and it shows on screen.

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It was infused with the culture of the 40s. Years from now, people will look at movies from today and say similar things.

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It has moments of humor, but it's not a comedy.

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