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Disappointed with the adaption


I just read The Grapes of Wrath and it's probably the most memorable book I've ever had the pleasure to read. Despite it being haunting and depressing I really loved the book and looked forward to seeing this movie. However I was greatly disappointed! I know it was made in 1940 and film-making was very different from now, but even when having that in mind I have to say I really didn't like the movie, didn't evoke any emotions at all for me I'm sad to say. All I read on here is praise for the adaption, I wonder if anyone else loved the book but, like me, was disappointed with the movie? Naturally I would love to see it re-made where it's more true to the book.

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It was impossible to make a truly "authentic" rendition of Steinbeck's novel as a mass-audience movie in 1940. The prevailing standards of censorship simply would not permit it.

Given those restrictions, the movie was still a powerful and generally pretty faithful adaptation of the book. It is still one of the most subversive mass-audience pictures released before the 1960s.

TGOW was adapted to a stage play in 1990 starring Gary Sinise. That version is more faithful to the original novel but there are still some significant omissions/ changes.


I think a remake could be made now, sticking much closer to the original novel. It would be less optimistic and more fatalistic than the 1940 movie but it could still be well done.

The directors/producers/writers/cast would have to walk a fine line to not fall into near-parody in some segments which pretty much must be done verbatim, and also resist the temptation to just change stuff for the hell of it, to show you are doing your "own" version.

And casting would be absolutely key.

Some guys who might be very good as Tom Joad (David Straithairn, Billy Bob Thornton, Sinise, George Clooney) are now the wrong age. Tom is supposed to still be fairly young, in his 30s at the oldest. He is not supposed to be an old man or even middle-aged.

Edward Norton might be able to do a good Tom Joad, but at 43, he is also moving out of the age-group in which he would be credible in the role.






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Funny, John Steinbeck (1902–1968) liked it when it was made.


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Well, Steinbeck got a screenwriting credit and I presume a pretty healthy chunk of money out of the film, so it would have been pretty shocking if he came out and trashed it.

Still, as noted in the posts above, considering the cultural conditions of the time regarding what was and was not allowed in movies, TGOW was about as strong an adaptation as could possibly have been made.




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I think it generally happens that a really great book has layers and complexities that don't get into the movie. The movie will tend to pick up one of the strands in such a book, and emphasize it to the exclusion of others. In _Grapes of Wrath_ it's the political strand that got full treatment in the movie.

The powerful and moving final scene of the book, when Ma has Rose of Sharon breast-feed a man who is starving, got left out not only because it wasn't part of the story about union organizing, but because it probably couldn't have got past the censors in 1940.

If they re-made the movie now, they could include it.

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I really hope they remake it and include that ending scene. I think if they had ended the film with that scene originally and perhaps got rid of most of the optimism, it would have been one of the most classic films ever. I do think it was a good adaptation though regardless, and given the censorship of the time, it still delivered the core of Steinbeck's message quite faithfully.

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Possibly with modern audiences, but for the people coming out of the Depression, I think a very dismal picture wouldn't have gone over too well back then.

It might have been one of the films that was critically panned in the 1940's but was then regarded as a classic starting in the 1970's or 1980's.

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that's funny, grapes of wrath is on the tube now, (I've seen it already) and I was just thinking the movie is so good I don't want to read the book.

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i'm re-reading the novel right now. it really hits home with me because I had relatives who made that trek from Oklahoma to California. I have never seen the movie in it's entirety and I was wondering how close it came to the book. I have seen so many great books made into God awful crap movies, i am curious to see how bad ( or good) this movie is. seems by reading some stuff here they did make some changes but that the film was pretty good. i will have to see it sometime if i can ever find it, either on TV or wherever

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Just as the book mentions, the way people who could in any way be seen as a "Communist" Agitator was black listed so i guess to keep a career as a director you couldn't be true to the book. Another example is the adaption of George Orwells Animal farm.

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I wish the order of events would have been the same as they are in the book. I didn't like that the Joads went to pick apricots before going to Weedpatch. It just doesn't make sense. They were practically out of food & money at the apricot farm, and the government camp costs $1 per week. So like, how could they afford to stay at that camp & eat, eh? It would've been better if the movie stuck with the sequence of events in the book.

With today's technology and standards, it would be possible to include scenes from the book that were not in the original movie, such as the ending. In the 30's/40's, movie producers probably lacked the ability / resources to create rain & flood. Also, censors in those days would not have permitted nudity of any kind. Today, showing a woman reveal her breast should be okay, if done the appropriate way.

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Movies never live up the book. Books offer so much detail and insight that a movie can not possibly replicate

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Could maybe work as a TV miniseries.

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