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They had to get a singing Tyrone Power


At 20th Century Fox Ty Power and Alice Faye were the leading man and woman of
the lot and they made three films together. In Old Chicago, Rose of Washington
Square and Alexander's Ragtime Band. Of course Faye carried the burden of singing in the first one, she shared it with Al Jolson in the second and in the
third she had consdirable help with Don Ameche, Ethel Merman, and Jack Haley.
But Ty's contribution musically, bupkis.

This very talented actor and wonderful movie hero was musically a bust. It's
rather obvious with all the others in this film doing their musical bits and
Ty just leading the band.

I believe that is what led Darryl Zanuck to sign John Payne. He could and did
contribute musically to several films with Faye and Betty Grable.

Alexander's Ragtime Band is a wonderful tunefest and I love it. But Faye needed
a singing leading man and Power great actor that he was, was not it.

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"...But Faye needed a singing leading man and Power great actor that he was, was not it".

Yes, John Payne filled that bill.....somewhat. The son of professional singers, his voice was much too studied for my tastes, although his baritone was rich enough. His best singing, with Alice, was in "The Great American Broadcast," which also features GREAT performances from "The Ink Spots" and "The Nicholas Brothers." This film is not highly rated, but the songs and the dancing numbers make it an under-appreciated classic. Alice was obviously limited in her choice of partners while working at 20th Penitentiary-Fox (as she called it), so any duets with, say, Bing Crosby were out of the question, in that she couldn't even sign a record deal and all of her singing was limited to films only. In that their voices were actually of equal range (Alice was practically a tenor), the combination of Crosby and Faye would have been a delight.

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Too bad Alice Faye didn't sign with Paramount. What beautiful music she and
Bing would have made.

Unfortunately that first husband of her's, Tony Martin, left Fox before he
became a big enough name to co-star with her.

I also think that Dick Powell would have been a great choice to team with her
as On the Avenue proved. But he wanted to get out of musicals.

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Faye and Martin did co-star in "Sally Irene and Mary".

In that, one of their songs was cut for TV and that is the only version available today.

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Nobody cared if Tyrone Power could sing. He was a handsome leading man and Fox's biggest star and Fox would put him anywhere they thought would boost their box office. He worked well with Alice Faye in Old Chicago and they were re-teamed. I think it was one of his best movies and I understand it was a huge hit in its time.

John Payne was good. I saw him recently in "Garden of the Moon" (made about the same time as "Alexander") and he was good (and attractive) but he never made the impact Tyrone did on the public no matter what Fox did for him.
He made some good movies with Betty Grable and some passable westerns in later years.

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Right, "Alexander's Ragtime Band" did not need any more singers. Some of the bandleaders back then did sing but most of them did what Power did in this.

John Payne was very impressive in film noir, such as "99 River Street".

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Power was more involved in the boy meets-loses-regains girl drama aspect. I also got the impression early that he --clearly-- was a musician rather than a singer.

I had no idea Ameche could sing and his voice didn't seem to match speaking?

Kisskiss, Bangbang

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I am watching it now, and never knew he could sing either, but my late mom who was a Depression kid stated he sang the pitch song for Wheaties radio commercials back in the day.

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