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My favorite Astaire/Rogers film BUT


I really like the film Astaire and Rogers are in full "swing" here, at the top of their careers, with great music and a sweet-natured comedy. However, I must admit that I have a problem with the "Bojangles of Harlem" number. I realize no harm was intended and that Astaire was doing a respectful homage (certainly more respectful than what Jolson and Cantor were doing) but it is just too hard not to look at the number without a 21st century perspective -- and I have tried. Ebert has said this is the only blackface number that doesn't make him squirm. Good for him, but I squirm. I usually deal with the situation by leaving the tape running and going to the bathroom. Otherwise it is my favorite Fred and Ginger film.

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I didn't find Astaire's blackface to be particularly offensive, but then I am not african-american.

IMO the presence of the "Blackface" in Hollywood films reflects clearly the racism from that era (still alive to some extent sadly), but not necessarily the actors who performed in blackface were trying to denigrate black people. Actually I've read that Astaire did the Bojangles number as a homage to Bill Robinson.

Of course blackface or any other denigratory representation of ethnic minorities shouldn't be allowed anymore. I mean movies like "The Love Guru" have no room in the XXI century, That's my opinion.

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Whoever mentioned "Birth of a Nation," bravo. In comparison to that film, Astaire's 'Bojangles' number is like a brand of worship.


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10-4. It's a great film ... and I didn't feel a racist vibe, but it's still hard to watch. Those times sucked for people of color .... still do to a much lesser degree.

That being said, I really loved the dance numbers. Great, great choreography; great script, wonderful everything!

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Never really bothered me at all. He's not making fun of anyone. He's not acting slack jawed and over exaggerated. He's just in costume, that's how I see it and have never really thought much of it. I being mixed raced myself(black/white) never even paid it much mind till I seen this thread lol.

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Didn't particuarly bother me, it was done as a tribute and around that time was common enough (think jolson etc) but i can't say i liked it but then again i wasn't expecting it. i can't say i have a favourite of the astaire-rogers musicals as i've only seen 5 including swing time and so far i'm not sure i could choose a favourite because they're all so good (incidently ive seen top hat, shall we dance, follow the fleet, swingtime and the barkleys of broadway)

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While I too have trouble stomaching black face numbers, I agree with Ebert. This is the only black face number that I have seen that has not made me squirm. Many are much worse-Holiday Inn comes to mind.

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It was a fantastic number and the blackface didn't bother me in the slightest. No ridicule or slight of anyone was intended; if anything the opposite. All the people who say it makes them squirm really ought to grow up.

Appreciate it for what is was, leave your 21st century preconceptions out of it. If you allow yourself to be so culture-bound, you will miss most of the great art in the world.

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It's a great scene! I loved it! There is obviously no disrespect intended in it. I don't get why people get offended by that kind of stuff.

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WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE GET A LIFE .... AND TAKE THAT POLE OUT OF YOUR ..... JEZ

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