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The reality of people with Trump vs. Biden...


Is that both are considered to have their own personal flaws that can make it hard to like them as a person. But in the end, it's about who's worse at their job, and not how low their actions can be.

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all I know is that my 401k went up during the Trump years. its been flat for the past 3 years.

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I see SPY at about $420 June 2021 and about $520 May 2024.

https://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/advchart/frames/frames.asp?show=&insttype=Fund&symb=SPY&time=10&startdate=1%2F4%2F1999&enddate=5%2F11%2F2024&freq=2&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&comptemptext=&comp=none&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=2&style=320&size=3&x=58&y=12&timeFrameToggle=false&compareToToggle=false&indicatorsToggle=false&chartStyleToggle=false&state=9

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under the first 3 years of Trump, minus the plandemic. my 401 gained 27k...

under the first 3 years of Dictator Joe, (who said he was going to BBB and has been in Politics for 50 years) my 401 gained 13k.

its clear who is better for America and Freedom.

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"its been flat for the past 3 years."

math is hard.

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its a figure of speech.

engrish is hard.

Dictator Joe is a complete failure and will lose this Nov. unless the dems cheat again.

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22-million illegal votes is a definite sign that they are planning to cheat again.

The loophole for that new bill:
Non-citizens can vote without penalty if at the time they are voting, they believe themselves to be US citizens.

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its funny how you ignored the profits made when Trump was President. lol

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This is a lame thread. You're a glutton for punishment. S&P500 is up over 20% last 3 years, you said it's been flat.

"under the first 3 years of Trump, minus the plandemic. my 401 gained 27k..."

"minus the plandemic?" the stock market took off like a rocket during the "plandemic"

SPY 12/30/2019 $322
SPY 12/28/2020 $373

18% ain't peanuts.

Who's feeding you this crap? They're making you sound like a retard.

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again, its a figure of speech.

Dow Jones 2/14/2020 $28,992.41
plandemic
Dow Jones 3/20/2020 $19,173.98
Dictator Joe
Dow Jones 9/30/2022 $28,725.51
=flat market

"the stock market took off like a rocket during the "plandemic""

haha, wow. as you can see by the numbers above, thats not true.

just because the SPY goes up, it doesnt mean stocks go up and it doesnt mean bonds and treasuries go up. it doesnt mean your 401k goes up. this is basic 8th grade economics.

my 401k literally made no money between the start of the plandemic til 2023. its finally been going back up for the past year and a half.

the plandemic didnt start until march 2020, thats when we were sent home from work and all the stores and businesses closed. we were told to work at home for 2 weeks and then come back. 4 years later I am still working at home.

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"just because the SPY goes up, it doesnt mean stocks go up"

lemmee guess this is just another "figure of speech..."

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its funny how you always ignore the facts and then try to get in a zinger.

Dow Jones 2/14/2020 $28,992.41
plandemic
Dow Jones 3/20/2020 $19,173.98
Dictator Joe
Dow Jones 9/30/2022 $28,725.51
=flat market

do you have any data points to support your claims, if the SPY goes up then stocks go up?

lets see currently, Dow Jones is up, but berkshire, disney, home depot, starbucks and at&t are all down. again this is basic 9th grade economics.

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"Among the three major U.S. stock exchanges -- the Nasdaq Stock Exchange, New York Stock Exchange (NYSE), and over-the-counter (OTC) markets -- there are more than 10,000 publicly traded stocks available for investors. However, many of these are rather tiny, up-and-coming businesses. If you limit your search to companies with valuations of $250 million or more, the number is about 4,000. And if we look at companies with market capitalizations (the value of all of their shares combined) of $1 billion or higher, there are about 2,500 to choose from."

https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/companies/#:~:text=There%20are%20literally%20thousands%20of,3%2C700%20on%20the%20OTC%20markets.

"The Standard and Poor's 500, or simply the S&P 500, is a stock market index tracking the stock performance of 500 of the largest companies listed on stock exchanges in the United States. It is one of the most commonly followed equity indices and includes approximately 80% of the total market capitalization of U.S. public companies."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%26P_500

So, yes, the S&P500 does NOT capture all 10,000+ publicly traded stocks on U.S. stock exchanges. Merely 80%.

And, pulling numbers out of my butt, I'm guessing if there we included the NEXT 500 largest companies, that would only capture about 83%.

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The Nasdaq Stock Market (/ˈnæzdæk/ ⓘ; National Association of Securities Dealers Automated Quotations) is an American stock exchange based in New York City. It is the most active stock trading venue in the U.S. by volume,[3] and ranked second on the list of stock exchanges by market capitalization of shares traded, behind the New York Stock Exchange.[4] The exchange platform is owned by Nasdaq, Inc.,[5] which also owns the Nasdaq Nordic stock market network and several U.S.-based stock and options exchanges. Although it trades stock of healthcare and financial businesses, it focuses more on technology stocks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nasdaq

May 17, 2024
Key Data
Today's High/Low $529.52/$527.32
Share Volume 59,187,585
50 Day Avg. Daily Volume N/A
Previous Close $528.69
52 Week High/Low $531.5218/$409.21
Market Cap 456,560,618,500
Annualized Dividend $6.379748
Ex Dividend Date Mar 15, 2024
Dividend Pay Date Apr 30, 2024
Current Yield 1.2%
Alpha N/A
Weighted Alpha N/A
Beta N/A
Standard Deviation N/A
Average Daily Volume 20 Days N/A
Average Daily Volume 65 Days

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/etf/spy

What is the difference between QQQ and SPY?
QQQ is a passively managed fund by Invesco that tracks the performance of the NASDAQ-100 Index. It was launched on Mar 9, 1999. SPY is a passively managed fund by State Street that tracks the performance of the S&P 500 Index.

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Four of the five stocks you posted are up year-over-year.

I don't know why Starbucks is in the toilet.

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the stocks are going up now. but they were all down because of the plandemic.

Dow Jones 2/14/2020 $28,992.41
plandemic
Dow Jones 3/20/2020 $19,173.98
Dictator Joe
Dow Jones 9/30/2022 $28,725.51
=flat market

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I respectfully disagree.

While your argument is sound, imo, it is more important who is on my side, vs who is AGAINST me and mine.

I think that Biden looks at me and people like me, and see us as PROBLEMS that need FIXED. And he has a plan to do it.


I think that Trump looks at me and sees a supporter who he is going to try to repay by doing a good job as President. It's not because he likes me personally or "feels my pain" but because he judges his OWN worth on his ability to do a great job of an important job.

And that works for me. Better than most of the choices I have had for quite some time.

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Did you swallow?

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The lack of awareness of the level of irony in your post, is hilarious.

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We are living through the horrors of an old dementia patient who has no business saying he's President. The world is burning, the US debt is out of control, and doesn't give a damn about doing anything to help America as a whole. I don't care if Trump is an asshole he actually cares about representing the greater good of America and improving the lives of REAL Americans. Biden and his handlers want America to burn.

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I believe Trump cares about America
I also believe he's the absolute last person who could help or has anything to contribute.

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I think this is a really good observation. I’m just wondering what competent person will ever work with him if he gets a second term. He burned so many bridges during and after his first.

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I don't like either of them. Shame on everyone who voted Biden in the primaries and shame on everyone who voted Trump. Also shame on all the republican candidates who dropped out of the race so early. I refused to vote in the republican primaries because everyone dropped out except Trump. It's so frustrating! So many people vote for the worst candidates. I'm not voting president or governor again! Cause most everyone is stupid and is just gonna vote for the worst candidates. I live in Illinois where we have nothing but corrupt governors on either side because most everyone in the state is stupid.

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