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The premise makes no sense

posted 2 years ago by avortac4 (3610)
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Another movie where pretty much nothing makes sense, and which contradicts itself all the time, but what's worst; it creates REALLY difficult questions and moral/ethical dilemmas to answer that it just brushes off.

As the movie is SO full of this problematic material, the moviechat's stupid limitation (and it's stupid to put limitations to text, since text takes the least space of all things - even a relatively small gif, png or even jpg takes more space than even a relatively big amount of text) would never allow me to write it all in one post, so I am forced to do the 'Preview + pastebin'-thing again.

So here goes - just a small taste in this post, the rest in the pastebin link.

So all toys are actually alive, but they - ALL of them for the
WHOLE history of toys on the whole planet? - hide that fact
from their slavemas... I mean, 'owners'.

Now, there are SO many questions that should be answered,
but this movie doesn't bother answering.

01) WHY do they all follow this rule? Are there no
rebels?

02) What is the REASON for the rule? Why would it be beneficial for the
'owners' to think something living is actually non-living? Wouldn't that
just create unnecessary danger?

03) Who created this rule and why?

04) If all toys are alive, are there inanimate objects that are not alive?

What creates 'life' for the toys, and why doesn't it create life for
anything else?

05) Is it possible to manufacture things that are not alive, or is everything
that is manufactured alive somehow? Are all plastic bags alive? Computers?
Hairdryers? Why only toys?

06) How does this happen, exactly? How can any soul, let alone an individual,
seemingly human soul, incarnate into a bunch of manufactured plastic without
chakras or meridians, and why would they, when they clearly ALSO incrnate
into proper human bodies, that governments recognize have ACTUAL RIGHTS?

07) Buzz doesn't think he's a toy, but voluntarily follows this arbitrary
rule anyway? What are the consequences for breaking the rules, and why
is everyone so scared of breaking them, that they follow them even when
they don't think they are a toy?

If there can be one toy that doesn't think they're a toy, then there
should be millions of them, historically speaking. NOT ONE OF THEM
broke the rule?

08) Why and how can the toys mold the hard plastic they are made
out of, just to create facial expressions and such? Wouldn't the
toymakers KNOW exactly what kind of plastic they are using, and
wouldn't it be way too hard and inflexible to allow that constant malleability?

Even if it was softer plastic, would it really snap back like a
living skin or an actual human face, when a toy smiles or whatnot,
and then closes their mouth? Why wouldn't it just BREAK or CRACK?

I mean, in my opinion, it can't even BE plastic, all the toys
must have been made mainly out of some kind of RUBBER for any
of this to be possible.

Think about the toy soldiers; mom steps on one, it makes a
CRUNCHING sound, and then listen to the sound when she kicks
them away. Definitely hard plastic. Then they start moving
and speaking, and they move as if they're even more malleable
than rubber. What kind of plastic is it?

Read the full post here:

https://pastebin.com/6vHBV6TU

I wrote about 21 points, and I repeat what's in this post in that link as well. Thank goodness for pastebin..

[–] avortac4 (3610) 2 years ago

I just thought of more questions - this movie just keeps giving..

I mean, Buzz thinks he's a ranger. We have all thought about the question of 'why would he follow the rule if he doesn't even know he's a toy', but I have ANOTHER question about this.

Why would he take 'life as a toy' as normal, and LET A GIANT PLAY WITH HIM as if he has no soul and as if he's just a still, rigid, inanimate object instead of, oh, I don't know, A SPACE RANGER? Why is it normal to him that Andy writes his friggin' NAME on his foot and GRABS him with his giant hand and plays with him as if he's a toy?

WHAT KIND OF SPACE RANGER would allow that to happen and not question it AT ALL? HOW?!

I mean, can you imagine Captain Kirk to beam to a planet, where some giant starts playing with him as if he's the giant's toy, and Kirk thinks NOTHING of it, but 'yes, this is the normal life of a space ranger'?

What kind of sense does THAT make??

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12653) 2 years ago

I take it you weren't a kid when you first watched this? Because it makes perfect sense to kids.

[–] Dsx2006 (187) 2 years ago

Your post is deeply rooted in logic and that's fine but you are missing the point of the movie or any of those in the franchise, friend.

[–] Furienna (3330) a year ago

Sometimes, it is for the best to not overthink the details of a movie.
But now I want an answer to some of your questions too, like who came up with those rules and why.