Plot whole
So in addition to being fat, she also smelled like garbage?
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shareSo was fat and she smelled like plops. Pheobe needed to show it was two seperate issues
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MovieChat Forums > Friends (1994) Discussion > Plot whole
The term is "plot hole," that is a hole or error in the plot.
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Plote Whole means the plot isnt whole sir
shareI suggest you do a google or similar search. The term is "plot hole." The term plot whole will return definitions for "plot hole." This is a common error.
Author of the Sodality Universe:
The Road fro Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater of Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World Series begins in 2025.
It is a common error youre right. Plot Whole has to do with a plot that isnt whole.
shareHe's talking about a plot whole, you're mistakenly assuming he's talking about a plot hole. They are two different concepts.
shareI cannot find a single reference to "plot whole" anywhere. Can you. As I said above, if you can, and direct me to it, I will read it. Until then, since I see no evidence of the term actually being used anywhere, I will maintain my stance.
Author of the Sodality Universe:
The Road fro Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater of Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World Series begins in 2025.
You can see it referenced here:
https://moviechat.org/tt0108778/Friends/660e0b318ee476508cc9fbf9/Plot-whole?reply=66427be65b2dcc55fea0b1b9
Ok, you realize that a reference to this discussion thread is meaningless, right? i would need a reference from outside this discussion. As I mentioned earlier if you google (or use duck duck go, which is my choice), the engines will not return a mention, definition, or acknowledgement of "plot whole." Thus my contention that the term used by DemBonesThemBone is incorrect and that there is not a term called "plot whole."
Author of the Sodality Universe:
The Road fro Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater of Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World Series begins in 2025.
Actually there I’d . Plot whole means the plot is less than whole
shareProve it. Find me a reference to plot whole. I've tried. I cannot find one. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of definitions for plot hole. I cannot find one for plot whole.
And I might add, what makes a plot not whole? The meaning of plot hole is, in general, a gap or inconsistency in the story.
Example: At the beginning of the story it is established that the protagonist is allergic to peanuts. Later in the story the protagonist is eating peanuts without an issue.
Example: At the beginning of the film is a scene which establishes character A cannot swim. Later in the film character A swims across a channel to rescue the hostage.
Example: A ship is sinking at sea. The captain dives into the water and tows the ship to safety. This hole is dependent on the story being set in the real world.
Often a plot hole can be fixed with a simple line of dialog or a scene. A mircale drug that cures allergies. A montage showing the character learning to swim.
Sometimes the problem is so egregious that it cannot be solved.
I should note, that fantasy, horror, and sf do not have plot holes due to depicting things which cannot happen in real life. In the sinking ship example above, if the film is a story set in a world with super powers, the hole does not exist. (unless it was established the captain does not have super powers.)
Show me a reference which defines plot whole. Not your personal belief, but evidence of its use. (Other than this thread) I will examine it.
Author of the Sodality Universe:
The Road fro Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater of Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World Series begins in 2025.
It seems like several people have gotten it and only you are confused. A plot whole means a plot that is not whole. It means there is an unsatisfying ending or a sublte text that lacks credibilitiy. What movies are your examles from? You didnt list those. Its not up to those of us who are familiar with the reference and understand its meaning to provide a bag of nothing for you. What movie has the peanuts?
shareHe's confusing plot holes with a plot whole, which is a common error made by casual film-goers. It's the cinematic equivalent of feeding peanut butter to a child with a peanut allergy only to find out it was actually cashew butter. It's like, yes things turned out okay, but no thanks to the guy who made the sandwich. The plot whole would be that no one said it was in a sandwich.
shareHe is doing that. I agree and thank you for realizing it
shareWhat I am trying to get through everyone's perception here is that the term "plot whole" does not exist. It is not used by anyone in the business of story creation (books, films, etc.) I can say that with confidence since, as I've said several times, if you use a search engine looking for "plot whole" you will ONLY get references to "plot hole."
I've searched on the terms "plot whole," "plot whole definition," "plot whole vs plot hole," and "plot hole vs plot whole." So far all the other commenters here keep saying is that I'm mistaking one term for the other. Yet I cannot find that term anywhere except on these boards on occasion.
I have asked several times for those disagreeing with me to find and post a reference from outside these boards and I will look at it. I may, after examining such a reference, withdraw my point.
This is a debate. I've provided my evidence. Claims that I'm wrong or mistaken are not evidence, they are merely declarations. When someone supplies actual evidence, I will return to this discussion. Until then there is no point in debating declarations.
Author of the Sodality Universe:
The Road fro Antioch
In the Markets of Tyre
Flight to Lystra
The Theater of Ephesus
The Council on Jerusalem
The Shattered World Series begins in 2025.